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williamtaylor1969: Bootlegger, Recaster

Discussion in 'Disney Parks and Resorts' started by Gurgitoy2, May 15, 2009.

  1. Magic Music

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    You didn't think we just forgot about this one, did you?

    After being reported to Disney Legal and GNP Crescendo, cargosupplyhq is no longer a registered member on eBay. [​IMG]

    cargosupplyhq is known as williamtaylor1969 around various Disney-related forums.

    Here is the contents of one of his posts on the Doombuggies Forums:

    Can you believe that someone who is complaining about how much money the record companies make, and who apparently feels that copyrighted works should be freely shared by everyone, has been selling dozens upon dozens of bootleg CD-Rs for up to $50 a piece?! What a hoot!
     
  2. Gurgitoy2

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    Yeah, I have to admire his hypocrisy there! He's saying how everyone should "share", and those darn copyright laws are just mean and getting in the way of "sharing". Well, my definition of sharing doesn't involve charging people for something that doesn't belong to me. His reaction is similar to the Chinese reaction to that fake Disney park. People were upset that the original owners of the characters they were ripping off were mad. They thought those characters should be used by everybody...

    Honestly, I think if he were just sharing, as in posting things for free on MB or something like that, he wouldn't have been noticed...but he was blatantly making money off of copyrighted material, yet he feels like the victim...
     
  3. Magic Music

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    Some background...

    I actually purchased one of cargosupplyhq's CDs on eBay. I never intended to send payment, I just wanted to get his contact information. eBay informed me that his name was "William Taylor," and that he was from Long Beach, CA. I then sent a follow-up message to cargosupplyhq, asking about other CDs, in hopes of getting his e-mail address. He replied, and his e-mail address turned out to be williamtaylor1969@gmail.com.

    Too many people have a habit of using the same username and/or e-mail address all over the internet and then they wonder how it is that others are able to find them. Plugging "williamtaylor1969" into Google is how I found him on Doombuggies.com and elsewhere.

    Fast forward to today...

    A forum member copied me on a post made this afternoon by "Williamtaylor1969" on a pirate site where he has apparently been active in posting links to copyrighted Disney Music and making derogatory remarks about WDR's [member=Randy Thornton].

    Here is the contents of William's post (sans the unreadable teal color that he used):

    Let's tackle William's statements one by one, shall we?

    "DexterRiley" is former Magic Music member "Bill." Bill has never been banned from Magic Music. Bill left on his own. I have repeatedly told him that he is welcome to come back. I only ask that he leave the "Fluppy Dog" and "Lem Siddons" nonsense behind. At no time did I ever think that our Bill was "Williamtaylor1969." He is not.

    As for my "jumping to the wrong conclusions" regarding William, who is he trying to kid? Does he really think people are that dumb? How many "Williamtaylor1969s" are there? Other William Taylors? Of course. But with "1969" tacked on to the end of their username and/or e-mail address? I don't think so!

    Remember this?

    "Williamtaylor1969" is also active in a topic on this same pirate website concerning copyrighted Star Trek music. So, let's see. His username is "Williamtaylor1969," he is active in collecting and sharing both Disney music and Star Trek music, but he wants us to believe that he's not the same "williamtaylor1969@gmail.com" that was selling bootleg Disney and Star Trek CDs on eBay? Anyone want to buy a bridge? I'll bet William has one for sale! [​IMG]

    As for "a photo of this 'Jay' person," I have no idea what William was looking at, but I doubt it was actually me.

    For William, and the curious, here I am at the Adventurers Club during its final days:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I'm 5' 11" and have a 32" waist. Hopefully, I don't look like I need to make a beeline to the gym. [​IMG]

    Maybe "William the Bloody" likes his boys to be bone skinny. I dunno. [​IMG]
     
  4. eyore

    eyore DLRP explorer Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Bill did post a warning about this guy on "another" forum about posts he had made on yet another forum.
    It's obvious from the posts that he doesn't know what he is talking about - WilliamTaylor, not Bill - (and certainly doesn't read the posts here or he wouldn't be making comments about Randy considering what Randy is doing at the moment).
    He seems to have a very blunt axe he it trying to grind.
    If he told me the sky was blue, I'd probably slip out to make sure.
    I'd be amazed if anyone actually believed what he was saying unless they too were several sandwiches short of a picnic.
    Some people are just very sad individuals.

    PS, Like the shirts. I have several similar ;)
     
  5. Magic Music

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    Did Bill do enough digging to learn that "William Taylor" is also "Greg R. Stone?"

    In addition to bootlegging music, this guy has apparently made quite a name for himself by selling unauthorized recastings of various movie props. In some cases, he has accepted payment and not bothered to send anything in return.

    Wow! He's quite the busy bee!

    And now, if he is to be believed, he works as a "Criminal Fraud Investigator" in Long Beach, CA. C'mon! Really?! How rich! It takes one to know one, I guess! :lol:

    From Greg R. Stone's IMDb profile:

    Interestingly, the website "trekkinginthestudios.com" was registered by a Mark Willett of Long Beach, CA, whose phone number matches the one that eBay sent to me when I requested cargosupplyhq's contact information.

    Other aliases for "William" or "Greg" or "Mark" include "John Ray" and the seller "moviemagicman" on eBay.

    On the net:

    Doombuggies williamtaylor1969
    eBay cargosupplyhq; moviemagicman
    IMDb Greg R. Stone
    LinkedIn Greg Stone
    Network Solutions trekkinginthestudios.com
     
  6. eyore

    eyore DLRP explorer Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Yes, this is what he said on the other forum:

    screennames: williamtaylor1969 and Greg Stone
    eBay names: Moviemagicman and johnjohnrayray
    aliases: William Taylor, Greg Stone, and John Ray
    interests: Star Trek, Disney (esp. Haunted Mansion), soundtracks
    infractions: selling bootleg Disney CDs, selling Star Trek rip off gun replicas
    Fictions: that Supertracks was the supplier of the Disneyland Forever CDs starting in 1995, that, as Greg Stone, he was the first person to enter The Haunted Mansion in Disneyland, that Randy Thornton has systematically removed all Disney audio content from the world.


    I'm sure Bill won't mind me posting this as he was issuing a warning about the guy.
    Oh, according to WilliamTaylor, Bill is working as a spy from Disney.
    "Got to be VERY carefull people, we have a SPY from the Disney corp on this site right now!!!! "dexterriley" is a SPY for Disney! Got to be very carefull about what you post!
    William" (sic)

    Sorry I can't post the name of the forum this guy said this stuff on but it allows members access to copyright material.
     
  7. Magic Music

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    He tortures kittens, too! :eek:



    Oops! Sorry. I meant to say that he tickles kittens. ;)

    :lol:
     
  8. exetor999

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    Now, I was looking thru some of the older posts and saw all the stuff on this guy. One thing I cannot figure out is this. How did you connect Williamtaylor to Greg R Stone to John Ray, to Mark willett?Let's start at the beginning: How did "Bill" connect "williamtaylor1969" to "Greg R Stone"? Because they both claim to be the first person to go into the HM? Is there anything else to connect one to the other? I looked at "Greg R Stone" at IMDB.com, and didn't see anything about a book called "will taylor...", but the book he did write, or is writing is called "Trekin' in the studios", not "Trekking..."And how did you connect that to "Trekkinginthestudios.com"? I went to that site, but there isn't one.When I went to Ebay to ask about that username, the customer service rep said that none of these names I gave her was the name associated with that username. Not William Taylor, Greg R. Stone, John Ray, or Mark Willett. I didn't have any phone number to compare. Nor did any of these names link up to the other usernames:cargosupplyhq or moviemagicman.On a curiousity, I sent an email to "Williamtaylor1969@gmail.com" and it came back as no such email.On Google, I did find several posts by "Williamtaylor1969" on "Doombuggies.com" (is it okay to mention them on this site?) But I didn't see any connection on any ofthose posts to John Ray, Mark Willett, or Greg R. Stone. If "Bill" did all the legwork on this guy, how did he tie all the ends together? I also saw several postsby Williamtaylor1969 on another site, which he had posted all the Disneyland and WDW stuff, which I took a couple of days to download the majority of it, some reallygreat stuff there, which is why I didn't post the name of that site here, I know you don't approve of what he is doing.I know, you don't like people who bootleg Disney stuff, but posting on a free message board is not like he's selling it. "Bill" claims that Williamtaylor1969 is using all of the other names, but the only one that we really know is real is "Greg R. Stone", since he has an IMDB profile, and you can't bogus that up. But I don't see any connection between him and any of the other names.Before I can make an informed judgement of any given situation, I need to have facts, and I just can't link one fact to another without clear provication. Like a cop who takes a case to the DA, there has to be a clear and distinct line between fact A, fact B, and fact C. I just don't see it.Please don't blast me, just asking.
     
  9. exetor999

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    And, how come everytime I post something, all my sentences get mashed together? Very frustrating.
     
  10. Magic Music

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    Google is your friend when it comes to connecting all of the dots. There was/is a ton of stuff out there. As for being "the first guest to enter Disneyland's Haunted Mansion," how many others are making this claim? :rolleyes:

    What I copied from IMDb and pasted above was accurate at the time (87 days ago). I can't imagine why anyone would ever want to make changes to one of their online profiles. :rolleyes:

    "Will Taylor and the Mysterious Secret of Karn" was, according to him, "due to be published in late 2008." It's now late 2011. Perhaps he removed the entry simply because he's been suffering from a horrible case of writer's block. [​IMG]

    Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Apparently you didn't read anything in [post=34110]post #43[/post] and [post=34114]post #45[/post]. [​IMG]

    Follow the 'whois' for trekkinginthestudios.com:

     
  11. exetor999

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    I am using Windows 7 IE (9 or 10) and everytime I start a new sentence, no matter how many times I hit the enter key, it jams the new line into the end of the previous sentence!Should I be using Firefox?
     
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    So, Jay, looking at the feedback from "Cargosupplyhq", I assume that you were "Throwmetheidol"? :)
     
  13. Magic Music

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    I just installed IE 9 on my Winblows 7 Pro 64-bit machine, it had been running IE 8, and I immediately discovered all sorts of nasty problems here. It looks like most of them went away after I pressed IE 9's little "Compatibility View" icon. I haven't experienced any problems with the message editor, though. I've tried every combination of Fast Reply, Full Reply, Standard Editor, and RTE Editor, and I haven't had any of my sentences mashed together.

    IE 9 certainly is an ugly piece of software! MIcrosoft has managed to outdo themselves again! Steve Jobs was right: "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste." [​IMG]

    I didn't leave any feedback. Our transaction was never even completed.
     
  14. eyore

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    Everyone should be using Firefox :D
    I was delighted to be able to ditch IE. Works fine on Win7 64bit.
     
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    Can't say that I do. How do we know that he's not just running off Xerox copies of the documents and burning multiple CD-Rs of the audio? And, if these are CD-Rs, he'd be in violation of eBay's policy concerning the selling of recordable media, since he's not the copyright owner (see [post=30279]post #27[/post] in this topic).

    Edit: Actually, looking at radioman147's feedback, it's a given that he's gotten himself into the bootleg business, as he has already sold multiple copies of the Horizons and Communicore items. :(
     
  17. eyore

    eyore DLRP explorer Premium Member Playlist Author

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    I too find it very hard to believe that he got his hands on five similar copies of this one (he's sold 3, had one stolen in transit and he's selling this one now). That's all in the last 6 months. All identical apart from one CD had a pink cover. Shouts bootleg copies, doesn't it!
     
  18. Magic Music

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    Let the reporting begin!

    230717179493
    230716309173

    Report Category: Copyright and trademark
    Reason for Report: Bootleg records or unauthorized media
    Detailed Reason: Unauthorized media on recordable formats (CD-R, DVD-R, VHS Tape)
    and/or Unauthorized photocopies of printed material​
     
  19. eyore

    eyore DLRP explorer Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Done.
    My main objection to this guy is ripping off genuine Disney Park fans.
    I'd still report him for selling copies of stuff and pretending them to be genuine even if copyright wasn't an issue.
     
  20. X-S Tech

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    Am I the only one who is curious to find out what he might have from Communicore?
     

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