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Magic Music

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The tracks Within Attraction and Sand Dance are EXACTLY the same on the albums In Celebration of Life and Out of Silence.

Actually, no, they aren't. "Sand Dance" runs 5:15 on Out of Silence (1987), and depending on which release you have for the compilation album In Celebration of Life (1991), it runs 5:09, 5:10, or 5:16. "Within Attraction" runs 4:11 on Out of Silence, and depending on the release, 4:07 or 4:10 on In Celebration of Life. Those are just the playing times. I don't have multiple versions of these tracks ready to compare in my sound editor right now, but for all I know, one version could have peak levels at 68% and another version could have them jacked up to 98%.

Yes, of course, it's entirely possible that the exact same version of a track can appear on multiple albums. But, for example, if we know a loop started playing in 2001, and one of its tracks can be found on albums that were released in 1997, 2002, and 2009, we can be 100% certain where the track actually came from. There can be other clues, too. If it turns out four or five tracks can be found on the same album, it's unlikely that they were pulled from several different albums.

Again, we're trying very hard not to guess around here. We aren't just picking albums out of the blue when we tell you where a particular track is from. If we tell you it's from X, it's probably best not to mess around with Y or Z.
 

BLM07

Member
The tracks Within Attraction and Sand Dance are EXACTLY the same on the albums In Celebration of Life and Out of Silence.

Actually, no, they aren't. "Sand Dance" runs 5:15 on Out of Silence (1987), and depending on which release you have for the compilation album In Celebration of Life (1991), it runs 5:09, 5:10, or 5:16. "Within Attraction" runs 4:11 on Out of Silence, and depending on the release, 4:07 or 4:10 on In Celebration of Life. Those are just the playing times. I don't have multiple versions of these tracks ready to compare in my sound editor right now, but for all I know, one version could have peak levels at 68% and another version could have them jacked up to 98%.

Yes, of course, it's entirely possible that the exact same version of a track can appear on multiple albums. But, for example, if we know a loop started playing in 2001, and one of its tracks can be found on albums that were released in 1997, 2002, and 2009, we can be 100% certain where the track actually came from. There can be other clues, too. If it turns out four or five tracks can be found on the same album, it's unlikely that they were pulled from several different albums.

Again, we're trying very hard not to guess around here. We aren't just picking albums out of the blue when we tell you where a particular track is from. If we tell you it's from X, it's probably best not to mess around with Y or Z.

Anyway, I said "I guess they are the same" how is that suggesting other people to use the other album to compile a listing? I was basically thinking to myself "oh, I already have In Celebration of Life, and I'll just use the tracks from that album since they are probably the same to make this loop for my own personal listening." But after this discussion, I went ahead and found Out of Silence just to see if there was any difference. Well, I do have both of the tracks ready to edit, and they are the same, besides the one second difference, and maybe a slight change in volume. Something that was most likely edited no matter which album was used when they made the loop anyway. And yes, I understand the loop was made in a certain year, so Out of Silence was used, I get it.

And I'm not some kind of noob when it comes to audio editing or Disney music, I've been editing and collecting digitally since 1997, and before that it was analog. So when it comes to albums X, Y, or yes, even Z, it's a safe bet I know what I'm messing with.
 

FoxxFur

Member
Fountain View Ice Cream will be closing on April 8 and will reopen in early August as a Starbucks. :(

Hey Jay, several of the album versions you posted seem to run different times in the playlist. Do you know where the edit points occur? In the process of making some documentation of Fountain View last week, I noticed that the loop in situ generally edits the tracks together to flow together easily, and my uninformed guess is that whoever put the loop together occasionally edited out the slow start of some of those tracks.
 

Magic Music

Administrator
Playlist Author
several of the album versions you posted seem to run different times in the playlist.

Sorry, I'm not following you. What has different times?
Do you know where the edit points occur?

Nope. It was way too noisy in there for me to make the kind of recording that would allow me to determine anything like that. I can tell that some of the tracks had been trimmed and that there are most likely crossfades between them, as I never heard any silence, but that is about it.
 
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