The same here - no problems with the ripping. If you are absolutely sure that your cd/dvd drive, your computer and your software (or the interaction of these three elements) can't be the problem I think everything indicates you got a flawed set of CDs. In that case the product is defective and Amazon should take it back.
Anyone Having Problems Ripping the World's Fair CDs?
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have you tried it on another PC? (Not another CD player, they are far too tolerant).
At least it would show, if it didn't rip, that the set really was defective.
From the number here who have had no problems, the possibility of DRM problems fades especially, if as said here, it hasn't got it.
How old is the drive and what OS, by the way?
At least it would show, if it didn't rip, that the set really was defective.
From the number here who have had no problems, the possibility of DRM problems fades especially, if as said here, it hasn't got it.
How old is the drive and what OS, by the way?
Disney Audiophile
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I direct all your attention to this wikipedia article. This disc set, or at least my pressing were done on ifpi discs (look on the disc itself for the ifpi logo). Intresting read. :wub:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International...raphic_Industry
To add insult to injury, Disney also seems to not label their product with labeling that states it has CCT's.
Look, you can even see WDR on the ifpi website. scroll to the US.
http://www.ifpi.co.uk/content/section_link...mber_sites.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International...raphic_Industry
To add insult to injury, Disney also seems to not label their product with labeling that states it has CCT's.
Look, you can even see WDR on the ifpi website. scroll to the US.
http://www.ifpi.co.uk/content/section_link...mber_sites.html
Yeah, so Walt Disney Records is a member of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, who isn't?
IFPI is an organization involved in promoting the value of music, safeguarding the rights of record producers, and helping to enforce copyright laws.
IFPI does not operate manufacturing facilities. I am not sure what you think an "ifpi disc" is, but what you are seeing on your CDs are the unique mold codes used by the pressing plants. One of the ways that the record industry fights piracy is by using IFPI codes on their CDs.
The "Mold IFPI," which is enforced physically around the spindle hole by the mold pressing the disc, consists of "IFPI" and four or five alphanumeric digits (e.g., IFPI 6100). The first two or three digits identify the pressing plant. The last two digits identify the specific mold which pressed the disc.
The other IFPI code that you might see on your CDs is the "LBR." It is written in the matrix ring, and it identifies the laser beam recorder that was used for mastering. The LBR always begins with the letter "L," and is followed by three numbers or letters.
IFPI codes have nothing to do with any form of Copy Control Technology.
Why would Disney put a Copy Control logo on a CD that does not have any form of Copy Control?
I am going to repeat: Walt Disney Records does not use DRM on their CDs. For that matter, nobody does anymore. EMI was the last record company to use DRM on CDs, and they stopped doing so in late 2006.
So we are all agreed that this isn't a DRM problem but, as we thought, a disc or player problem then with this one particular set of discs that Gugritoy2 has and not something common to them all.
I'd buy a new CD drive - they are not that expensive compared to the cost of the discs - but I'd try them on another PC first, as I've already said.
I'd buy a new CD drive - they are not that expensive compared to the cost of the discs - but I'd try them on another PC first, as I've already said.
Gurgitoy2
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Well, I brought the CD's to work to test them on the drive here, and the ripped successfully. I don't know what the issue is then. It's hard tor me to say it's my CD drive at home, because it's had no problems ripping other CD's. So far, it's just the World's Fair Set. DRM has been ruled out, but why this set only? In another post I mentioned having trouble ripping the earlier TDR CD's with DRM, but I have a newer computer, and even though I used a line-in cable to record them initially, since I got the new computer I went back and ripped them just fine.
So, my current drive can handle the TDR CD's, and everything else...it's just the World's Fair set giving it problems...and, I had no problems with it at work...so, I have no idea...
So, my current drive can handle the TDR CD's, and everything else...it's just the World's Fair set giving it problems...and, I had no problems with it at work...so, I have no idea...
It is well known that not all CDs will play on all players.
I have quite a few DVDs, as I said, which just refuse to play on my home cinema player but play perfectly well on my "spare" multi region one (dirt cheap as well) and my son's player - a video/DVD combi and my PC.
It's not unknown for me to have to rip the DVD and re-record it (I did this recently with two Disney Singalong DVDs which got a "no disc" when inserted into the player although, as before, the PC had no trouble.
I have a suspicion that many retail CDs and DVDs are now using rather poor quality medium to record on (more profit).
Personally, I have both a CD writer and a DVD writer on my PC so, if all else fails, one of them will read the thing and burn to the other. The result plays on anything (not true, won't play on the washing machine, for instance ).
The other thing to remember is that the readers in PCs are slightly disposable and are not as well-built as, say, an expensive sound system as most people either upgrade them or change the PC and throw them away.
The only way to check is to borrow the same CDs off someone else and see if the problem is there.
Of course, it could just be a badly burned set that you have, it happens - maybe the laser was giving out.
Glad you got it ripped anyway.
I have quite a few DVDs, as I said, which just refuse to play on my home cinema player but play perfectly well on my "spare" multi region one (dirt cheap as well) and my son's player - a video/DVD combi and my PC.
It's not unknown for me to have to rip the DVD and re-record it (I did this recently with two Disney Singalong DVDs which got a "no disc" when inserted into the player although, as before, the PC had no trouble.
I have a suspicion that many retail CDs and DVDs are now using rather poor quality medium to record on (more profit).
Personally, I have both a CD writer and a DVD writer on my PC so, if all else fails, one of them will read the thing and burn to the other. The result plays on anything (not true, won't play on the washing machine, for instance
).The other thing to remember is that the readers in PCs are slightly disposable and are not as well-built as, say, an expensive sound system as most people either upgrade them or change the PC and throw them away.
The only way to check is to borrow the same CDs off someone else and see if the problem is there.
Of course, it could just be a badly burned set that you have, it happens - maybe the laser was giving out.
Glad you got it ripped anyway.
Mass-produced CDs are not burned. They are stamped out by injection molding machines. Polycarbonate plastic is melted and injected into molds at high pressure. The process takes about 2 seconds. I wish I could burn a CD that fast!
A laser beam recorder (LBR) is used to create the original glass master, from which the metal stampers are produced, but any problem with the laser giving out would be caught immediately, as the audio signals being recorded are played back in real time by a second laser that is following the cutting beam.
It is possible that there is a manufacturing defect that has plagued a small percentage of the replicated CDs, but it could not have been caused by a faulty LBR that was left unchecked, as that would have affected the entire production run.
Gurgitoy2
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Ah, and that doesn't have a CD/DVD burner then, I take it (to copy the ripped CDs to and take them home and then copy to YOUR PC). Can you not plug in an external USB drive or flash memory stick to take them home?
I think we must assume that the problem lies with the drive on the PC so it's either a new drive or get the line in wire out, I think.
No point sending them back because they'll probably be fine when they test them.
Thanks jay for that info. I honestly thought they burned them. It's just like pressing vinyl
I think we must assume that the problem lies with the drive on the PC so it's either a new drive or get the line in wire out, I think.
No point sending them back because they'll probably be fine when they test them.
Thanks jay for that info. I honestly thought they burned them. It's just like pressing vinyl
Gurgitoy2
Active Member
Ah, and that doesn't have a CD/DVD burner then, I take it (to copy the ripped CDs to and take them home and then copy to YOUR PC). Can you not plug in an external USB drive or flash memory stick to take them home?
I think we must assume that the problem lies with the drive on the PC so it's either a new drive or get the line in wire out, I think.
No point sending them back because they'll probably be fine when they test them.
Thanks jay for that info. I honestly thought they burned them. It's just like pressing vinyl
Nope, it hasn't got a CD burner...so, a flash drive is probably my best bet. Also, the only program they have here is Windows Media...so, there's that too...
I may just get an external CD writer for my PC or something.
Jay, thanks for posting that video, it was fascinating! I wonder just how fragile that glass master is??