The Official Albums for 2008!
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REALLY?
Please, go back and check some violent and offensive comments made by some! At the time, I
thought Randy would never come back here; something I would have done if I had been him! BUT I am only little me!
You know, I have been a Disney fan for over 50 years now, and I can tell you that never in my wildest dreams would I ever believe that one day I would own so many tracks from Disney movies or Park rides, and in such a terrific form and quality! I feel so fortunate that I don't have many demands in that regard!
Now, how's the situation in Tibet?
Randy Thornton
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Sorry, Folks. I didn?t mean to derail the thread with my ?hack? addendum. I just wanted to point out how much I appreciated the fact that one?s first instinct to voice a critical reaction was ?there must be a reason? as opposed to there being an instant condemnation of all involved ? a practice far too prevalent in other forums. Discussions by their nature often bring with them confrontational ideas. It?s just not necessary to be hateful and mean. As others have said, THIS forum is an oasis ? like a bench off in the corner of The Park on a busy day.
Thanks,
Randy
Thanks,
Randy
WDWGuy08
Member
hi randy! i do indeed listen to his film scores and television scores all the time. i purchase them from intrada immediately when they are released. attached is a collage of his scores i own on cd. i enjoy them immensely and always support him so that more of his music can be released, just as i do with his theme park music. i am very flattered at what he said to me recently, that i "may" have had a hand in getting more of his theme park music released, it made me very humble and happy to hear that from him. i do everything i can to support him and for more of his music to be released. i may not not post about his film music that much here or at intrada but i enjoy it immensely and listen to it a lot as much as the theme park music more or less.
so you were unable to get ahold of the score at the time for the OA? just the song? is there a rights issue for releasing the score right now, and that's why you are unable to place it on the newer OA's?
so you were unable to get ahold of the score at the time for the OA? just the song? is there a rights issue for releasing the score right now, and that's why you are unable to place it on the newer OA's?
Randy Thornton
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Gee Bill, you make it sound like a bad thing.
Randy
disneyphilip
Member
Excuse me, Bill, but that is absolutely UNTRUE!!!
You just offended me and everyone who had worked for the mouse. Shame on you!
makeminemusic
Member
Excuse me, Bill, but that is absolutely UNTRUE!!!
You just offended me and everyone who had worked for the mouse. Shame on you!
Dear DisneyPhillip,
I'm so very sorry that you found the facts I presented offensive. The LAST thing that I wanted to do was make people think that I actually didn't believe that everyone who works for Disney has sold his/her soul to the devil and they're all hacks and they kill babies and they smell bad. I believe that with all my heart and soul. In my heart I know you believe it too. Sorry you misunderstood the intent of my post. Have a magical day.
Bill
DisneyPhillip, please don't feed the other bear :
MiklCraw4d
Member
Oh, and Randy, can we PLEASE retire the "Swanee River" track that's been in rotation since the 1980 Official Album? I think it's time for a break!
Oh no! I love that track
Even though I'm WDW and not DL... That track was seminal for me from the 1980 LP I had when I was a kid.Something that made me sad for a long time was that the atmospheric live park music from the 1980 album never got much presence on subsequent releases. It's so evocative for me of the "golden age" of the MK. It's grating for me that Adventureland now centers around Aladdin instead of that great steel drum sound of the early days.
Now what I'd *really* love to see is a modern version of the old LP of live acts from the Magic Kingdom. You wouldn't believe how stoked I was when, in latter days, I discovered via the internet that such a thing existed. Once upon a time WDW really knew how to market themselves...
MiklCraw4d
Member
Well this is a nifty idea! With new albums scheduled on an every-other-year basis, it would be excellent to use those off-years for other specialty products to appeal to true fans and music buffs (and the general public, if they find out the albums exist!).
While it is troublesome to realize that you've just dropped $20 for two tracks (although I do it every time), I certainly have no problem with the OA staying largely static from year to year. As you say, it does have to represent the parks as they are at the moment. As much as *I* would love it, it would be bizarre to expect the WDW OA to be full of obscure Horizons loops and hourlong cuts of area music. People are going to want to get a CD with Pirates, Mansion, etc... The key, as others have said, is to offer supplemental releases for the people that already have ten OAs from over the years.
This is a good idea, and would probably work well if I weren't totally OCD and needed every release. In any case, whenever I decide to skip a release I look back years later and realize it has *one* track on it that I don't have elsewhere and have to hit the ebay!
Excellent. I'm glad you mention this, as I had wondered to myself what you would do when the "big projects" were over. The OAs were in such terrible shape when you took over, and you've slowly rehabilitated them over the years... Pirates fixed, Mansion fixed, Splash fixed... I've wondered what was next once all the "name" attractions had definitive medley cuts established.
I can't wait to see...
MiklCraw4d
Member
I hadn't realized that you had put together that set - I have it via the internet and wasn't aware of its origin. I hate that I didn't ever see it when it was in stores. In any case, I was so impressed by the track choices that I should have known you were involved - there were several things on that set that I had never heard before. Ironically, the Rescuers track was one of the reasons the set caught my eye - that's a striking score and the accompanying scene in the film was very impressive. It stuck in my mind years after I last saw the film.
I very rarely ever post here - in fact it took me a moment to even remember my password, but I read often. You know what? I don't think *anyone* is really disputing that Pirates and Mansion etc should be on the albums. But the point is, if it was at least some even slightly different version or mix or track-there-from, I'd have no complaints. However, and especially in a year that there were considerable changes to both of those two key attractions that always come up in arguments for static albums, there's just no excuse to not remix the tracks.
Randy, this is by no means a slam on you. I have a great deal of respect for the fact that you feel the need to take time to explain the inner workings of this stuff. I also don't expect (nor do I ask) that you change how you do things to suit me. It's simply my opinion. Sometimes I feel like life would be simplier if Mansion or Pirates had been scored by Bruce Broughton. At least then there'd be repeated petitions posted day after day demanding the release of the newest versions!
Randy Thornton
Member
cm,
I appreciate your comments. Thank You.
If I may though, I view my explanations as 'reasons' as opposed to 'excuses'. It may very well be just semantics, or the fact that it is me stating the reasons (or making the excuses). But that is my belief.
I assume that you read my post concerning "Pirates of the Caribbean" a few pages back. As for "The Haunted Mansion", the update to the attraction did not included any musical element - just the bride's speech (as far as audio goes). The Wedding March has never been included, nor has The Portrait Gallery or the Seance cues. Like the "Yo Ho" track, the "Grim Ginning Ghosts" track is an expansion of the song. The addition of the bride had no musical impact. If the tracks were actual ride-thrus, they would definitely be included. I also would have titled the tracks "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "The Haunted Mansion".
Also, I don't feel the 'need' to post here. I do, because I want to. We are all passionate about Disney Music and sometimes things happen that confuse us. By participating here, I can explain why some things happen and give a little insight to how the Music Business works. Like I posted earlier, I don't do this to make what you feel is disappointing acceptable, but to give you a better understanding of why.
Once again, I really do appreciate your comments.
Many thanks,
Randy Thornton
PS - If you believe that a petition had or will ever have any sway in my decision-making-process, I've got some swampland in Florida to sell y... wait, that actually worked didn't it. Never mind.
I appreciate your comments. Thank You.
If I may though, I view my explanations as 'reasons' as opposed to 'excuses'. It may very well be just semantics, or the fact that it is me stating the reasons (or making the excuses). But that is my belief.
I assume that you read my post concerning "Pirates of the Caribbean" a few pages back. As for "The Haunted Mansion", the update to the attraction did not included any musical element - just the bride's speech (as far as audio goes). The Wedding March has never been included, nor has The Portrait Gallery or the Seance cues. Like the "Yo Ho" track, the "Grim Ginning Ghosts" track is an expansion of the song. The addition of the bride had no musical impact. If the tracks were actual ride-thrus, they would definitely be included. I also would have titled the tracks "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "The Haunted Mansion".
Also, I don't feel the 'need' to post here. I do, because I want to. We are all passionate about Disney Music and sometimes things happen that confuse us. By participating here, I can explain why some things happen and give a little insight to how the Music Business works. Like I posted earlier, I don't do this to make what you feel is disappointing acceptable, but to give you a better understanding of why.
Once again, I really do appreciate your comments.
Many thanks,
Randy Thornton
PS - If you believe that a petition had or will ever have any sway in my decision-making-process, I've got some swampland in Florida to sell y... wait, that actually worked didn't it. Never mind.
WDWGuy08
Member
can we help it if we want to try to get Disney to release more music that we like by starting a petition? i started mine to inform others about mr. broughton and his theme park music and to sign to get more released, to show disney there is a market for this. of the people ive spoken to over time they all would give in the hundreds of dollars for a cd of this music by broughton i myself would gladly pay 3,000 or more for this music. there is money to be made off this even if it is sold on itunes music store where it would reach more people that cant make it to the parks. disney should hire a market researcher and gather statistics and find out how many people would buy a cd of this music and how much they would pay for it etc and get pre-sale agreements form them signed by them and then go form there. i made a website to inform people who do not know about mr. broughton or his theme park music so that they may learn more about him and what he does and what he has done over the years since the mid 80's for the walt disney company and its' parks. i have had a few people who work in the trailer music industry listen to his music and now they love his music, they had no idea he did all this music. my petition has 770 people myself included who will pay for this music.
i am proud of myself for what i have done to alert others of my actions and informing them of mr. broughton and letting them hear his music so that they can purchase the official albums and hear it more and they support getting his music released, more of it, that is.mr. broughton is amazed i know so much about it and how knowledgeable i am of it. he also congratulates me on my actions to get more released and has even said that i should pack myself on the back for getting what was released on this years official album.