OT- But shocking news- Roy Disney Resigns...

SharonKurland

Active Member
Signed Pruiksma's petition today.

Sigh...what Eisner needs is a GOOD price on his head...SOME bounty hunter's GOTTA be willing to do the evil deed...
 
One (king) to bring them all and in darkness bind them?

tsk tsk Sharon.. death is no laughingplace matter!
(Doobie deleted a similar joke I posted a couple years back, I think it was along the lines of whether anyone could take M.E. helicopter ski-ing.)Maybe Trent will have to do some spanking, you know liability and all.

I personally do not harbor murderous intent toward Big Mike. I just wish he'd take his silver spoon and go away and the Co. could get back to its Midwest roots and values. (its to much to hope for)

I don't think he is Sauron as much as Sarumen.
Traitorous, Bigger is Better, Cranking out cheap imitations of the beauty created before. we could use a ressurected Gandalf!

To War!

PS Sharon. go rent FOTR and TTT to get all of the allusions. (Got your package -Sending out tomorrow)
 

Jessica L

Member
Thank you so much for the petition link - I signed it and passed it on. There's change in the wind, I can feel it. I am so excited at the prospect of just what we, the fans, artists, cast members, etc. can do when we band together against the bad.

And the chant begins - "Down with Eisner!" :)

Jessica
 
.....and continuing on the LOTR take, Sharon--don't forget what Gandalf said in the Fellowship to Frodo in the Mines of Moria--"Don't be too quick to deal out judgment--Gollum may yet have a role in all of this before it's over"--so may Mr. E.

.....let's let things unravel a little more.......

Mike
 

SharonKurland

Active Member
Actually, my response on another board, where I'm not quite as refined as I am here (shut up ), was "What Michael Eisner needs is a good, strong heart attack. Or a bounty hunter."

OK, so I don't REALLY wish death on him. Maybe a little torture, but not death. Banishment to Siberia? Would that be OK?

-Sharon-
 

David S.

Member
Roy on CNN

Roy was on CNN "Paula Zahn Now" at 8 PM ET tonight. I didn't find out about it in time, but based on posts I've read he acknowledged the HUGE groundswell of support from the Internet community! So EVERY voice DOES make a difference!

The good news is, the program is scheduled to be repeated in a few hours, at 2 AM ET (1 AM Central) if anyone sees this in time.

Also, here is another MAINSTREAM story documenting the overwhelming groundswell of support Roy has received in the last few days. It looks like Roy will be getting lots of media attention with this, and this could all just be the beginning... ;)

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/031203/leisure_disney_roy_1.html
 
Just in case it gets lost at CNN.....
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ZAHN: Now to our interview with the man who has launched a public campaign to get rid of Disney CEO Michael Eisner.

Over the weekend, Roy Disney, the last family member to serve on the board of the Walt Disney Company, resigned. And he demanded Eisner do the same. So why is Disney trying to push out the man many believe turned the company around?

Well, Roy Disney joins us now to explain.

Good to see you, sir. Welcome.

DISNEY: Thank you.

ZAHN: I wanted to start off tonight by looking at some numbers.

In 1984, when Mr. Eisner took the helm with Frank Wells, profits were $97 million. Last year, they were $1.2 billion. In 1984, revenues of $1.7 billion. Last year, $25.3 billion. And we're told the stock price, if it stays on track for the year, will be up significantly this year.

What's wrong with that picture?

DISNEY: Well, here's another way to look at the same numbers. If you invested $1,000 in Disney in 1984, when Michael Eisner and Frank Wells together came into the company -- and that was very much our doing, trying to right the company from a course that we thought was astray at that time. If you invested $1,000 then, you would have, I think -- I believe it's accurate to say about $89,000 today.

However, if you invested that same $1,000 in Disney seven years ago, you would have $1,000 today. And it should have been in the bank. And there's been something like $5 billion, $6 billion of cash invested in a number of things in that period of time that have simply not added to the value of the company.

ZAHN: Do you want Mr. Eisner's job yourself?

DISNEY: I've never wanted Mr. Eisner's job myself. I didn't want it 20 years ago.

And, no, what the company needs is new, fresh blood that's excited about the company and excited about the future.

ZAHN: Who would you like to see replace him, if he goes?

DISNEY: Well, I obviously am not in a position to name names, because -- and we get asked this a lot -- because we know that anybody's name that we might bring up would be so trashed so quickly that we wouldn't have a friend left. So there are plenty of people out there that could do this job. And I have to leave it at that.

ZAHN: What are the chances, Mr. Disney, that Mr. Eisner will survive all this?

DISNEY: We need to convince people over the next period of time. Whatever that period is, I'm not sure yet. God knows, if I could give you a list of the e-mails and phone calls and Web site comments that we've had over the last two days, it sounds more like a revolution to me than anything else.

ZAHN: I would like to read to you a statement that the Disney board put out -- quote -- "It is a disservice to shareholders and to employees that the company faces this distraction at a time when its performance is improving."

Now, I saw you interpret numbers a little bit differently than a lot of analysts did at the top of this interview. Do you buy into the fact that the company's performance has improved this year and, if it continues, you might even see a 35 percent growth rate?

DISNEY: Well, I can't really comment on those particular percentage kind of numbers.

But, yes, indeed, the company over the last some months has improved. We don't look at it in terms of short-term, quarterly improvements. We look at it -- I particularly happen to have the name Disney attached to me. And I look at it pretty much over a much longer time span. And the last seven, eight, nine years, we've been absolutely flat as a pancake. ZAHN: Mr. Disney, you attempted this tactic back in 1984, when in fact you helped bring in Frank Wells and Michael Eisner. What happens if you fail this time around? What does it mean for the future of the company?

DISNEY: I really don't know.

As I say, if I could predict the future by way of the support I've been shown by hundreds, literally thousands of people -- I've met people on the street who've patted me on the back who I had never met before and said: Good going. Keep it up. Get it done.

So we're not packing up our bags and leaving. We're just out here in the real world. As board members, we were prohibited to talk with you, the press, to talk with shareholders, to talk with anybody, even, practically, amongst ourselves. It was taboo to talk about the company's business. And it was time to leave that situation and come out here and talk about reality to the real world.

ZAHN: In the end, if Mr. Eisner doesn't go, has this been a waste of your time to resign from the board?

DISNEY: Nothing is a waste of time. Living is the most important thing. And we're going to be around here for a long time. So, there's a lot to look forward to in the future.

ZAHN: Roy Disney, thank you for your time this evening. We really appreciate your spending some time with us.

DISNEY: Sure.
 

adimike

Member
I have no idea how this will play out, but it is nice to see that our collective voices are heard and noticed, and even better that they are being taken seriuosly, and not just as devoted fans.

"from prnewswire.com ---The Buena Vista Film Distribution
Group -- Buena Vista Pictures Distribution (BVPD) and Buena Vista International (BVI) -- has set a new industry record for the biggest global box office year of all-time with its combined domestic and international gross exceeding $3 billion. This milestone achievement, reached on Thanksgiving Day, was announced today (12/3) by Dick Cook, chairman of The Walt Disney
Studios; Chuck Viane, president of Buena Vista Pictures Distribution, and Mark Zoradi, president of Buena Vista International. Domestically, BVPD is continuing to have its best year ever at the box office with a year-to-date
gross of $1.48 billion (surpassing its previous high of $1.24 billion in 1999). "


This would be nice if it wasn't based on a few tentpoles, and a lot of disappointments. And, quite frankly, those tentpoles for the most part are coming fron the production houses that still have a some autonomy in the Disney corporate structure: Pixar, Miramax, and Shyamalan.

Reading Roy's comments on CNN, it is obvious that the spinmeisters are at work. Roy hits the nail on the head when he states...

"DISNEY: Well, here's another way to look at the same numbers. If you invested $1,000 in Disney in 1984, when Michael Eisner and Frank Wells together came into the company -- and that was very much our doing, trying to right the company from a course that we thought was astray at that time. If you invested $1,000 then, you would have, I think -- I believe it's accurate to say about $89,000 today.

However, if you invested that same $1,000 in Disney seven years ago, you would have $1,000 today. And it should have been in the bank. And there's been something like $5 billion, $6 billion of cash invested in a number of things in that period of time that have simply not added to the value of the company. "


I can only hope that Roy and Stanley's message will get through, and that it will become quite clear that we all lose when we lose what Disney has meant of the last 70+ years.

Adrian
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
Does anyone have the complete letter that Roy sent to Cast Members? No cast member I know got one (as I'm sure it wasn't distributed by the company) but perhaps it mainly went out to Animation people. The link on Laughing Place is just part of the letter.
 

Jessica L

Member
I have a question to bring up amidst all this rebellion. I was reading Jim Hill's fabulous articles, and found myself thinking "Why is Eisner still holding on to this job?" If it's for his ego, no matter when he leave now he'll still look like a big dummy - why doesn't he just step down gracefully now instead of dragging the company through a huge ordeal? It can't be a big monetary issue - I'm sure he's made enough to set him through retirement and beyond. Is he just that greedy? (Wait, sorry, rhetorical question... ;) ) He'll never be able to find another job (except maybe Wal-Mart or McD's) since his name has been tainted so much - what's a few more months going to do? Just make it worse I would think.

I was just curious what everyone's thoughts were as to why Eisner isn't gone yet.

But the news about Roy/Stanley/etc. allying with Henson and Pixar is just amazing. Way to go guys!

Jessica
 

jason90

New Member
The reason Eisner is in no hurry to quit is because he has such blind faith in his ability to run the company, this coupled with the fact he has locked himself away in an ivory tower never to hear a word said against his leadership or decisions......

I think its a sad irony that all this has happend only one week after the SoCal Health and safety authorites released their findings regarding the tragic BTM incident.
reading the account sent a chill down my spine.

The change at the top can't come to quickly for DL and WDFA....Is it too much to ask that the next CEO will hold a dislike to Pooh and princesses ;)
 

1313

Member
I... found myself thinking "Why is Eisner still holding on to this job?"
Over the years it has become apparent to anyone who has spent time around Eisner that his great desire before stepping down is to leave behind a Michael Eisner "legacy."

He refuses to be remembered as just the guy who guided the Walt Disney Company through some rough times. He is desperate to find something/anything that will live on as *his* creation after his exit.

He held out great hopes for ABC, ESPN, professional sports (The Angles, The Ducks), etc. -- basically anything that wouldn't be viewed merely as an add-on to the house that Walt built.

Michael (or "Mike" as Steve Jobs often refers to M.E., simply to get a rise out of him) knows that the early successes often get equally credited to Frank Wells and that rightly or wrongly Katzenberg wears the man-who-saved-animation crown. (Mike wouldn't be content with either of those accolades anyway.)

In the end, what shall the world have to say about this bean counter from Paramount? That is what concerns him and that is why he hasn't stepped down. One must remember that whatever his strengths, this is a man without a creative bone in his body. (But when has that ever stopped anyone in Hollywood from claiming the ability or power to create?)

More people recall engineer Alfred Nobel as the man who established the Nobel Peace Prize in 1905, than as the inventor of dynamite.

One gets the feeling that Mike feels he can pull off that same kind of Nobel "magic."


1313
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
I agree that the reason he is holding on is that he is totally unaware of the way he is viewed. It's not only those in his corporate circle that insulate him but the media itself. Even the stories which hint about a possibly dismal future for Disney with Eisner at the helm lay the blame with the economy, or the fickle public, while they tout Eisner as the pawn who's only trying to be a good leader, despite the machinations of adversaries like Roy and Stanley.

Its more about protecting Eisners ego than protecting the integrity of the Company.
 
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