dannyeyheralde
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there were actually 2 versions of the Disneyland 45th Anniversary album, the only difference being Parade of the Stars which was only on version 2
Are you sure about this? I know this was the case for the 2001 "Official Album", but I believe there was only one 45th Anniversary album.there were actually 2 versions of the Disneyland 45th Anniversary album, the only difference being Parade of the Stars which was only on version 2
Personally, I'm leaning this direction. The idea of footnoting the origins of a song if it wasn't on an OA is a solid one and fits with the approach we're already doing. And frankly, I'd like to avoid the rabbit hole B)Personally, I think it's pointless to include every park release. The thing with everything not listed as an "official album", they were one-off's. It would be hard to track changes to something like "Magic in the Streets: Parade Memories", or "A Musical Souvenir of the Magic Kingdom". Sure, some tracks appeared on OA's, but once you start including everything, you're going down the rabbit hole.
You could note where a specific track originated if it didn't show up on an OA first. However, I think sticking to releases labeled "Official Album" would be easier, since those are released periodically with updates, hence the creation of this topic.
My goal is to simply answer the question, "So what has changed on this Official Album?" Which then prompts the next question, "Well, if I'm looking for 'Song X', which albums did it appear on?" And hopefully do it in a quick-to-read form. B)I wasn't saying to include everything for the purposes of tracking changes to the original tracks.. which I guess was the intent. I just meant for the purposes of cataloguing everything which I'm not sure has been done(other than maybe the store on laughingplace)
I wasn't saying to include everything for the purposes of tracking changes to the original tracks.. which I guess was the intent. I just meant for the purposes of cataloguing everything which I'm not sure has been done(other than maybe the store on laughingplace)
Personally, I'm leaning this direction. The idea of footnoting the origins of a song if it wasn't on an OA is a solid one and fits with the approach we're already doing. And frankly, I'd like to avoid the rabbit hole B)Personally, I think it's pointless to include every park release. The thing with everything not listed as an "official album", they were one-off's. It would be hard to track changes to something like "Magic in the Streets: Parade Memories", or "A Musical Souvenir of the Magic Kingdom". Sure, some tracks appeared on OA's, but once you start including everything, you're going down the rabbit hole.
You could note where a specific track originated if it didn't show up on an OA first. However, I think sticking to releases labeled "Official Album" would be easier, since those are released periodically with updates, hence the creation of this topic.
I've thought about returning to this project, as I haven't quite finished the chart with the changes. Couple thoughts I wanted to throw out to the community, however:
1. What is considered an "Official Album"?
Are these just what we consider to be compilations from the parks? It's obvious that the DL and WDW-branded "Official Albums" are on this list. But what about "A Musical History of Disneyland"? How about "Music from Disney's Animal Kingdom Park"? I'd like to keep this list focused, and we all know there are a zillion other albums we could throw into this list (ride-specific, show-specific, event-specific, etc)
2. What do you consider a "change" in tracks?
There are situations where the same basic track appears on multiple albums, but do to time tracking, the count may be off when doing an A vs. B comparison. Additionally, there are some situations where there is a bleed of sound from a previous track before and/or after a track, even though the core track is the same. Obviously there are differences here, but the core track is the same (for the time being, I've just been footnoting these tracks noting the bleed)
3. Track Origins
For example, some tracks debuted in non-Official Album contexts. There were 2 theme park-related tracks on the 1978 "Magical Music of the Mouse" collection which were later used on Official Albums. Do we just measure when they appeared on the first official "Official Album" (i.e. 1980) or make exceptions for situations like this.
Your thoughts are welcomed. Overall, I'd like this reference to be targeted with a defined niche and canon to pull from. It's defining some of those rules that I need some help on B)
Thanks,
Steve
OK. Well since I've seen nothing back, I'll just hold off then. Crawl back into my corner and continue just organizing my collection for now.
OK. Well since I've seen nothing back, I'll just hold off then. Crawl back into my corner and continue just organizing my collection for now.
OK, just so you know we are not just ignoring you :lol:
I think items 3 and 4 are too vague as it doesn't specify what sort of album (ie needn't even be park related).
Would, for instance, the old Mickey Mouse Club vinyls be regarded as official albums?
They were released officially but are not park related.
It may seem obvious but I think it's important to include the relationship to a park.
A change of track would be just that for me - ANY change be it length, version, remix etc.
A change is a change although it would be helpful to actually state what the change was.
If a BGM suddenly added a track or two or changed it around (like Colonel Hathi's did in the mid-90's when it changed from Explorer Club) I'd want to know what the changes were and also the fact that there had been two loops - even if the newer one contained at least half of the old one (which it does).
I never think it a good idea to leave something out so even a reissue of an identical previous CD is historically important otherwise it's a little like leaving out a few ex-presidents because they didn't do much or last long in office in the history of the USA.