Tokyo DisneySea Expert Question
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Maliboomer
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The StormRider track is the actual complete attraction score on the ride itself.
The Indiana Jones Adventure track is from Disneyland, not DisneySea.
Journey to the Center of the Earth is a piece of queue music, not the on-ride audio. It is inspired by it though and follows the same general tune, but not quite so passive.
The tracks from Mermaid Lagoon Theatre are actual show tracks of Ariel singing- not from the movie.
The Indiana Jones Adventure track is from Disneyland, not DisneySea.
Journey to the Center of the Earth is a piece of queue music, not the on-ride audio. It is inspired by it though and follows the same general tune, but not quite so passive.
The tracks from Mermaid Lagoon Theatre are actual show tracks of Ariel singing- not from the movie.
Gurgitoy2
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Both attraction's scores are identical, however the track found on the CD is the same track found on the Disneyland OA...down to the second. But since they are the same attraction, why not just use the same track? the same could be said of all the Star Tours attractions worldwide (except the narration, of course).
Unlike the different versions of Splash Mountain, Indy is the same musically speaking. Only it's scenery has changed slightly.
Unlike the different versions of Splash Mountain, Indy is the same musically speaking. Only it's scenery has changed slightly.
Maliboomer
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X-S Tech
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Having not been on the ride I'm only guessing but I would think that the score is recorded in a complete form without interruption and then when the Crystal Skull makes any sound the score is interrupted or perhaps a different cue is substituted. Therefore the ride score could be identical in whole but you may not hear the same version each time. Disneylands has I believe 4 alternate cues which pop up depending on stimuli.
Maliboomer
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You've never been on the ride.
I've been on it dozens of times.
I've been on the CA version hundreds of times.
Who do you think knows more?
Look, I'm not trying to come off as all pompous- but I'm TELLING you what is diferent about it and you have the audacity to speculate if i'm right or not with no basis what so ever other than the fact that you don't want to be wrong.
The audio is completely remixed - it plays in a different order, and is not all there.
Please do not second guess something that I know for a fact. At least be considerate enough to fly yourself to Japan and ride it before continuing this debate.
I've been on it dozens of times.
I've been on the CA version hundreds of times.
Who do you think knows more?
Look, I'm not trying to come off as all pompous- but I'm TELLING you what is diferent about it and you have the audacity to speculate if i'm right or not with no basis what so ever other than the fact that you don't want to be wrong.
The audio is completely remixed - it plays in a different order, and is not all there.
Please do not second guess something that I know for a fact. At least be considerate enough to fly yourself to Japan and ride it before continuing this debate.
Maliboomer,
A kindly word of advice... Im fairly new to the site, but I have been going over the posts and have noticed a few things.
1st- This is one of the most well behaved forums I have come across.
2nd- as a result it is one of the best and most informative.
3rd- a good number of people on here have a wealth of information at their disposal and therefore discussion and debate is both healthy and helpful.
Basically what Im saying is be kind, be honest, be open, and enjoy this great tool we have at our disposal
Tim
A kindly word of advice... Im fairly new to the site, but I have been going over the posts and have noticed a few things.
1st- This is one of the most well behaved forums I have come across.
2nd- as a result it is one of the best and most informative.
3rd- a good number of people on here have a wealth of information at their disposal and therefore discussion and debate is both healthy and helpful.
Basically what Im saying is be kind, be honest, be open, and enjoy this great tool we have at our disposal
Tim
theEpiphany
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Wow an online toughguy, what a shocker. Don't get your panties twisted over something so trivial. If this is the end of the line for you....well...you really need to find something to do with your time. Because this is one hell of a wasted life you lead if this is going to make you constipated from day to day.
People are on here bcause they don't know and they are inquisitive about such things...This is why we are all here. Because someone might be confused or puzzled because of other facts presented to them just means that a further understanding, or a better explaination is needed. I'm sorry to say but you aren't the end all source on things and if it were me I'd second guess you too. Seeing as how there's much malice stemming from your fingertips, I'd just as soon tell you to P!ss off then answer any of my questions.
Regards,
-D
Maliboomer
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There's nothing to "debate" about when something is fact.
Indiana Jones Adveture: Temple of the Crystal Skull *does not* use identical audio from Temple of the Forbidden Eye.
The fact that someone has ridden it, and people still speculate and "debate" whether or not that is the case is *very frustrating*.
Do not ask questions if you don't want straight forward answers. The question was about what tracks on the CD are accurate to the ride- and the fact being, after everyone's complaining and pointing the finger at me, I'm *still* the *only* one in this entire thread to *answer* the original question.
SharonKurland
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Maliboomer-
Um, just an innocent bystander here, but you're also the *only* one on this thread whose online persona has been something less than *friendly.* And that is *equally* as *frustrating.*
If you want people to *respect* you and even *care* what you know, you need to make them *want* to read your messages in the first place.
You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
-Sharon-
Um, just an innocent bystander here, but you're also the *only* one on this thread whose online persona has been something less than *friendly.* And that is *equally* as *frustrating.*
If you want people to *respect* you and even *care* what you know, you need to make them *want* to read your messages in the first place.
You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
-Sharon-
X-S Tech
Active Member
Maliboomer,
When dealing with the complexities of music editing, arranging etc. sometimes a straightforward answer isn't enlightening. The question also said to use as much detail as possible. While your answer may in fact be correct, I have no way of knowing if you've considered certain possibilities until I've asked. This should not be taken as an insult.
To put what Epiphany said in another way, while you may have the answer to this question, I assure you there are several people here who are much more informed than you are.
When dealing with the complexities of music editing, arranging etc. sometimes a straightforward answer isn't enlightening. The question also said to use as much detail as possible. While your answer may in fact be correct, I have no way of knowing if you've considered certain possibilities until I've asked. This should not be taken as an insult.
To put what Epiphany said in another way, while you may have the answer to this question, I assure you there are several people here who are much more informed than you are.
X-S Tech
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So back to the subject:
Since at least one of us (Maliboomer) has been to TDS let's expand this topic:
1)Does anyone have any track listings for music used there. Or just info (times, names, etc..) on the different loops that play? Maliboomer said that the Journey music was taken from the queue. Do we have any idea how many pieces are in that loop?
2)Oh and what about the 20K track on the CD? Is this queue, Ride score, etc...?
3)DLP used so much existing Park music, has TDS recycled anything?
Since at least one of us (Maliboomer) has been to TDS let's expand this topic:
1)Does anyone have any track listings for music used there. Or just info (times, names, etc..) on the different loops that play? Maliboomer said that the Journey music was taken from the queue. Do we have any idea how many pieces are in that loop?
2)Oh and what about the 20K track on the CD? Is this queue, Ride score, etc...?
3)DLP used so much existing Park music, has TDS recycled anything?
Maliboomer,
Just to clarify, and then move on. *Fact* is sometimes not always *truth*.
If you remember... for years the world *was* flat. People had *been* there. It was *fact*.
Then, lo and behold, someone found out it was indeed ROUND!
(or at least roundish, right? spherical maybe. i dunno)
So the moral of this story is...
discussion AND debate are good. Just remember to be *polite* while doing so (because you just might be wrong).
Im off my soapbox now.
Thank you and goodnight.
Tim
Just to clarify, and then move on. *Fact* is sometimes not always *truth*.
If you remember... for years the world *was* flat. People had *been* there. It was *fact*.
Then, lo and behold, someone found out it was indeed ROUND!
(or at least roundish, right? spherical maybe. i dunno)
So the moral of this story is...
discussion AND debate are good. Just remember to be *polite* while doing so (because you just might be wrong).
Im off my soapbox now.
Thank you and goodnight.
Tim
Gurgitoy2
Active Member
For anybody who actually wants to see/hear for themselves whether or not the music cues are the same as the Disneyland version, check out this video of the Tokyo DisneySea attraction.
http://www.barrybedford.com/
You may have to navigate to it, but there is video of Temple of the Crystal Skull. The music cues are indeed the same as the Disneyland version, however they may be altered depending on the ride situation (but what do I know, I've never been on it).
I stumbled accross this video today and had forgotten about it. You will need Windows Media Player to view it though.
http://www.barrybedford.com/
You may have to navigate to it, but there is video of Temple of the Crystal Skull. The music cues are indeed the same as the Disneyland version, however they may be altered depending on the ride situation (but what do I know, I've never been on it).
I stumbled accross this video today and had forgotten about it. You will need Windows Media Player to view it though.
Maliboomer
Member
Good lord.
Did you WATCH the video? For crying out loud- I actully REGISTERED to this board to help someone understand something- because it was the same question I had last year to my friend who went when i bought the CD, prior to my own visit.
The audio is not the same as Forbidden Eye.
Once again - it is completely reorganized, plays in a different order and is not all present. Once again, several sections have been replaced with either silence, or sounds of screaming, wind hollowing or the like.
What more do you people want than a direct, specific answer from someone who has ridden both IJAs several times?
Did you WATCH the video? For crying out loud- I actully REGISTERED to this board to help someone understand something- because it was the same question I had last year to my friend who went when i bought the CD, prior to my own visit.
The audio is not the same as Forbidden Eye.
Once again - it is completely reorganized, plays in a different order and is not all present. Once again, several sections have been replaced with either silence, or sounds of screaming, wind hollowing or the like.
What more do you people want than a direct, specific answer from someone who has ridden both IJAs several times?