Shazam: A New Tool for Identifying Area Music


Club 33

Playlist Author
A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

Identifying needledrop tracks in area music loops is always a task. First someone needs to make a reference recording, and then one or multiple people must pour through it trying to figure out what all the music is. In the case of certain loops this isn't AS difficult- for the Monsters Inc loop I could be fairly confident most of the music would come from the Monsters Inc soundtrack- but for loops that use movie scores or other such things it can be much more difficult.

With the introduction of the new Application store for the iPhone, I have been trying and downloading new and interesting apps. One a friend turned me on to is called Shazam. With Shazam, you hold the phone up to a speaker with music playing and it takes a sample recording, then queries a database to try and identify that song. The sample length by default is 12 seconds, and it can come from any point in the song. The song also does not need to be in the iTunes database- though if it IS the app gives a link to the song in the iTunes store.

Now I personally was sceptical of such an app- would it really work in a real world scenario? But it does! Not only have I tested it with my own music collection but also by listening to random radio stations, and yesterday it was even able to identify a song in the middle of a crowded store in Beverly Hills.

Not only is this very cool and useful for discovering new songs, it occurred to me that it could be useful in identifying needledrop tracks in area music loops. Certainly it could be used "in the field" as it were with in-park speakers, but if a live or induction recording were made it could be used in a quieter environment at home and be just as useful.

To test it out, I tried to identify each of the songs in the Monsters Inc queue music loop that I recorded last week. Now obviously I had already identified all of the tracks in the loop that were commercially available, but it had taken me several hours of work. How would Shazam fair?

To say the least, Shazam TROUNCED me. Not only did it identify ALL of the needledrop tracks (from both the soundtrack and the Riders in the Sky album) on the FIRST TRY, but it revealed I had made a mistake. Two tracks which I had not been able to find on the official soundtrack and thus I had listed from a complete copy of the score I have, as it turns out WERE present on the official album (which, incidentally, means all of the music from the score used in the loop IS present on the official soundtrack).

All in all, identifying ALL of the tracks in the 30:11 loop took less than ten minutes, and the final result was more accurate than the list it had taken me hours to compile.

So now it was time to really test it- try a loop that's a bit more out there. Next I tried the Expedition Everest area music loop, which I had an induction recording.

First track, first try, it got it. The song is Dream by Yungchen Lhamo from the album "Coming Home". Second track , Cho Chendren by Steve Tibbets Coying Droima from the album Cho.

I suspect identifying all of the tracks in the loop at this rate would take less than 15 minutes. This is promising. VERY promising.

EDIT: I should note, however, that the database does not contain EVERY song ever- I was not able to identify the third track in the EE loop for instance. It's not perfect, and who could expect it to be, but it is quite good.
 

_Indiana_

New Member
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

Thanks for posting the information about the Expedition Everest loop. This is one of the loops I'm most interested in trying to identify. Shazam sounds really cool, but unfortunately I don't have an iPhone. Were you able to identify any of the other tracks in the Expedition Everest loop?
 

Gurgitoy2

Active Member
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

Wow, this sounds like an amazing tool and one that I hope only expands. I know it's hard with the more obscure tracks, but if it is even able to identify stuff in the EE loop, then that's pretty darn good for something new like that.
 

x-imagineer

New Member
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

I posted this same thing about Shazam on Rodentsections a little while ago but no one responded there. Funny.

I bought an 4GB iPhone on Craigslist for $100. They're out there, and many people are trying to dump them as they upgrade to the 3G. In fact, buy a busted one for cheap that's still under warranty and the Apple Store will replace it for you easily. I just did that and they didn't have any 4GB left so they gave me a new 8GB! Not a bad deal for $100.

Shazam works well, it identified Balafon Marimba Ensemble (Adventureland BGM) without a hitch.
 

Club 33

Playlist Author
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

By the way guys, I do believe they do versions for other phones, not that I don't highly recommend the iPhone. Check out the website at shazam.com.

As for the EE loop, I went ahead and did the whole thing. In total I was only able to identify four tracks, but at least it's a start:

1. Dream - Yungchen Lhamo [Coming Home]
2. Cho Chendren - Steve Tibbets, Choying Drolma [Cho]

After that I kind of lost track of the track numbers so the next two are by time:

Track that starts at 39:25:
Yyema Mimin - Steve Tibbets, Choying Drolma [Cho]

Track that starts at 1:07:40 (last track)
The Black Hat Dance - Shanak Rolyang [Sacred Music, Sacred Dance]

I've been trying out some other random things. One thing I found: The entire Bistro de Paris music loop, based on the loop I have (which I do not know the source or accuracy of) comes from one CD, albeit in a different order, which is The Music of France by The Paris Musette.

I suspect where Shazam will really shine is in identifying tracks that are a bit more mainstream, such as those sourced from movie soundtracks and the like.
 

Magic Music

Administrator
Playlist Author
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

I posted this same thing about Shazam on Rodentsections a little while ago but no one responded there. Funny.
I mentioned Shazam and midomi right here back on July 18 in the [topic="3744"]Let's Play...Name that Tune[/topic] thread. I guess Club 33 and Ben C. both missed it. :eek:

I do believe they do versions for other phones
Only for persons living in the United Kingdom.
 

almandot

Member
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

And it looks like the other versions (for people in the UK) aren't free.

Weird that they don't have a computer version where you play a song to your microphone. :eek: I mean it defeats the point of "out in the field discovery" but for playing back live recordings it'd be useful for people who can't get iphones.
 

Magic Music

Administrator
Playlist Author
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

Weird that they don't have a computer version where you play a song to your microphone. :eek:
You can sing or hum into your mic at the midomi site. I tried playing an actual recording through the mic, instead of singing or humming, and it didn't work. And I wouldn't call the Beach Boys' Fun, Fun, Fun an obsure track.

The technoloy is certainly promising, though.
 
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

Yeah; I'd confirm Jay's thoughts on midomi. I was stuck at an airport recently and gave it a try. Let's say this tool is not quite ready for prime time.
 
Re: A New Tool in Identifying Area Music

This will be useful. There was a generic track from the 1970's I ave been unable to identify all these years so such technology.... if they have as a copmputer program, me quite itnerested. :D
 

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