Question about CAMARATA and the Tiki Room album Rerelease on CD


X-S Tech

X-S Tech

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Three Questions

1)What was Camarata? Was it an outside company? Did they do stuff other than Disney? Was any of their music ever used in the park? I've seen their name on these new rereleases and heard people talk about them here.

2)Has anyone figured out what the "surprise" on the Tiki Room CD is? In his LONG post, Randy Thornton hinted at a surprise that was included in the rerelease. Strange because he made it sound like the goal of the program was to reissue the CD's as faithful reproductions of the original LP's thus not adding anything. Anyway has anyone figured it out?

3)On the new Tiki Room CD at the 14:43 mark, there is a voice and piece of dialogue that I don't recognize. This is the point at the show where the Thunder interrupts the Tiki Gods and the birds all start squawking. Then the 4 hosts start talking and each has a line before the show resumes. But there is an unfamiliar voice (sounds like an old man or woman) saying "What's goin' on?" Could just be one of the hosts but when I heard it it sounded really out of place. Just curious if anyone knows.
 
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DisneyFanatic001

I did a Google search and found this info about Camarata:

"Tutti Camarata - Music -- Tutti supervised recordings of more than 300 Disneyland Record albums, including those featuring Disney stars, such as Mouseketeer Annette Funicello, for whom he developed her distinctive "Annette" sound. He joined Disney in 1956 when Walt Disney decided to create an in-house label. Camarata helped co-found Disneyland Records, better known today as Walt Disney Records, and while there first began experimenting with classic Disney animated films, including BAMBI, DUMBO, CINDERELLA, MARY POPPINS and others, putting story, music and dialogue to long-playing vinyl record albums" (full article about Disney Legends here ---> http://news.awn.com/index.php3?ltype=top&a...ewsitem_no=9411)

Can't help you with the Tiki questions because:

a) I haven't received my Tiki CD yet (it's in the mail!), and
b) I've never heard the original vinyl Tiki album so I'm not familiar with the "original" soundtrack :(
 
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FRAN?OIS

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Along with other famous people, Tutti Camarata, who also was an arranger, orchestrator etc... was made a Disney Legend this past oct. 16 in a ceremony held at the Disney Studios...

For more about that check www.laughingplace.com.......
 
Grinning Ghost

Grinning Ghost

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2)Has anyone figured out what the "surprise" on the Tiki Room CD is? In his LONG post, Randy Thornton hinted at a surprise that was included in the rerelease. Strange because he made it sound like the goal of the program was to reissue the CD's as faithful reproductions of the original LP's thus not adding anything. Anyway has anyone figured it out?
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Nope. I can't find anything new. The mix is subtly different (and has a few editing flubs), but otherwise it's absolutely identical to the original Lp, and the original show.

3)On the new Tiki Room CD at the 14:43 mark, there is a voice and piece of dialogue that I don't recognize. This is the point at the show where the Thunder interrupts the Tiki Gods and the birds all start squawking. Then the 4 hosts start talking and each has a line before the show resumes. But there is an unfamiliar voice (sounds like an old man or woman) saying "What's goin' on?" Could just be one of the hosts but when I heard it it sounded really out of place. Just curious if anyone knows.
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That's Michael, the Irish bird. It's always been there. Well, I'm not sure it's still in the current version at Disneyland, but it's been in all the other full-length versions of the show I have, including the original Lp.

GG
 
Grinning Ghost

Grinning Ghost

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Yeah GGG didn't you mention a cut somewhere? Where is it? And the flubs? What are they?
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Well one noticeable edit is at the point he speaks of. Two different versions are cross-faded together just before that. Hawaiian War Chant is the complete one from WDWF, with the principle cast in mono, and the DLF version with the cast in stereo (but cut into two parts) picks up after that. They aren't properly synchronized, and you can hear both versions at the same time out-of-sync, creating an echo effect as the voices move from the center out to the sides. Also, in "The Tiki Tiki Tiki Room", Fritz and Pierre keep switching places. Kinda hard to do, since they are anchored to their perches! The background chorus also switches from stereo to mono and back again. In other spots, right in the middle of a song, the music switches back and forth from stereo and mono as well. Lots of little inconsistencies like that. For the most part, the whole thing is a combination of the WDWF and DLF versions.

GG
 
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Michael Zielski

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WAIT A SECOND, DisneyFanatic--did you say that your CD is IN THE MAIL??? I didn't think that the new CD's were available by mail order yet; is your CD being sent by a friend, or can you now order them by phone???

Anxiously awaiting a response,
Mike
 
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DisneyFanatic001

That's right! I ordered the CD through MouseShoppe.com ($20). They currently have 17 of the 40 titles available. I know it's more money than at the source, but it is cheaper than driving all the way from New Jersey to pick it up ;)
 
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Michael Zielski

Member
Thanks all, great news--haven't used Mouseshoppe before, but looks like a great source(already spotted some Haunted Mansion stuff as well)! Looks like it'll be Christmas in October--unfortunately, Sandy Claws won't be helping out......

Mike
 
Dr. Know

Dr. Know

Member
Which is more cost effective -- ordering from Mouseshoppe or DelivEars? I have ordered from Mouseshoppe many times in the past with excellent results, but never from DelivEars. Obviously, Mouseshoppe has marked up the prices -- they have to make a profit -- but perhaps the shipping is cheaper. I'm going to be ordering several of these cds, so I thought I'd ask for some advice here.

Thanks
 
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