Country Bear Tracks in Frontierland?


Paul

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I know the PARKS TUNES website is not entirely accurate but it lists some tracks from the Country Bear Jamboree release as being used in the Area Music for Splash Mountain (Wabash Cannonball, Polly Wolly Doodle), Big Thunder (Bang! Goes Old Betsy), and Frontierland (Red River Valley). I unfortunately do not have the WDW Forever tracks to compare. Are these the same versions? The "Old Betsy" track released on the previous WDW OA does not match the CBJ CD release.

The WDW Forever tracks were a missed opportunity.
 

eyore

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Whilst I can't answer the question, this is a problem with that particular site. It tends to list the name of the tune rather than point to the actual recording used so, yes, the site is inaccurate in that respect - even if the actual playlist is correct as far as titles go (and not always so), the sources are often not. many times it leads to a link where you can buy the same tune (but not the track used). Unfortunately, the site doesn't warn you of this - much to the disappointment of people who want the "real thing" and spend their money (and earn the site a small fee). :angry:
Rant over.
Others will now the answer.
 

wedroy1923

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Paul: Big Thunder Mountain and Splash Mountain at the Magic Kingdom each have dedicated queue music; there is also a general Frontierland area music loop which circulates among the trading community. On the Walt Disney World Forever system you could find queue music for both Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and Splash Mountain.

The tracks on Side B of the Country Bear Jamboree album do appear in the Disneyland Paris Big Thunder Mountain queue loop and also make an appearance in the Garden Grill's area music.
 

exetor999

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I was just curious why the country bear jamboree record is only in mono. All of the tracks that I have seen all over the internet are also not in stereo. Don't they exsist in stereo at all?
 

eyore

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I was just curious why the country bear jamboree record is only in mono. All of the tracks that I have seen all over the internet are also not in stereo. Don't they exsist in stereo at all?
The speakers in the parks are, generally, mono only so any form of recording them will result in a mono track (or at least the same mono track recorded onto both channels if you have a stereo recorder.).
If the original recordings are in stereo and Disney release them on CD, they can/will be stereo, I presume.
A live or induction recording can only record what comes out of the speaker - mono.
Not including the parade speakers and such, of course which play in stereo.
I don't know about the CBJ in particular but, as I said, recordings taken from the park will all be mono.
Whether it exists as a stereo mix on Disney records and CDs, I don't know. Depends what Disney recorded/released at the time.
The original CBJ record ST-3994 was on vinyl and released in 1972 so mono recordings were the norm then though.
 

The Trout

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The CBJ vinyl was stereo (indeed, that's what the "ST-" part of ST-3994 means). By 1972, mono was nearly dead. While the attraction's soundtrack is in stereo, however, the Mile Long Bar tracks are still only mono. I assume that's just how they were mixed, probably since they were always intended to be area music. Assuming Disney's vault is a good as they say, multi-tracks probably exist for those sessions, though. If Randy really wanted to, he could therefore remix them into stereo, though I don't imagine he'd have much of a reason to.
 

eyore

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The CBJ vinyl was stereo (indeed, that's what the "ST-" part of ST-3994 means). By 1972, mono was nearly dead. While the attraction's soundtrack is in stereo, however, the Mile Long Bar tracks are still only mono. I assume that's just how they were mixed, probably since they were always intended to be area music. Assuming Disney's vault is a good as they say, multi-tracks probably exist for those sessions, though. If Randy really wanted to, he could therefore remix them into stereo, though I don't imagine he'd have much of a reason to.
DOH! :blink:
of course the ST part means Stereo :blush:
I had to avoid those as I only had a mono Dansette player back then.
Let's hope Randy gets around to doing a nice remix sometime.
 

exetor999

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Thanks for the info. I didn't see any ST on my record, so I guess when I bought it as a kid, I didn't know the difference. While waiting for randy to come out with a new CD, is there anyone here who would have a stereo recording that they could pull mp3 tracks for me, or is that not allowed?


And, who is randy?



thanx
 

eyore

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Thanks for the info. I didn't see any ST on my record, so I guess when I bought it as a kid, I didn't know the difference. While waiting for randy to come out with a new CD, is there anyone here who would have a stereo recording that they could pull mp3 tracks for me, or is that not allowed?


And, who is randy?



thanx

Yes, in the early 70's they still produced mono records although, as thetrout says, they were rapidly being outstripped by stereo.
It was only around that time that stereo players were becoming smaller and not great chunks of furniture (my wife got one for her 21st birthday - we still use the speakers although the player is long gone).

Who is Randy?
Oh, for shame.

http://www.albumcredits.com/Profile/131758 ;)
 

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