ARRGH! SPACE track is NOT same as RIDE!


DLFAN79

New Member
ACCK! Can someone please explain! ??? The SPACE MT. track on ride NOW, is NOT the same one as on the CD. WHat a huuuuuuuge dissapointment. The CD track was much more powerful and exciting. It gave me goosebumps. From what i heard on the SPACE MT. preview clip, the on ride track sounds slow and just way too "spacey".
 

BLM07

Member
If you are talking about the New Daytime Track on the 6CD set, I remember reading somewhere that this was sort of a early version and may not be the version played on the ride.
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
What I had been told before the set was released, was that the track as released on the CD sets was not the entire track, but was an accurate portion of the attraction. What's missing is supposedly the "launch" and "reentry" portions of the attraction. When I finally rode it, that did not seem to be the case. I had a difficult time hearing the music at all over the rest of the noise in the attraction, and even knowing the CD track by heart, it was difficult to follow it. There was additional launch music/sfx... that then went into the track from the CD, but the CD piece ended before the reentry tunnel, and again because I had a hard time hearing, I couldn't tell if it was just silent or if there were sound effects going on. Ultimately there is also music at the reentry tunnel, but I have to say that the track on the CD is a much better presentation than the actual attraction. As with much of the new offerings for the 50th (parade, fireworks) it really seems like they had great orchestrations to work with and they just kinda got sloppy with the presentation. Wierd because they've specifically said how finely tuned the Space Mountain Show is supposed to be- they're very proud of it apparently, and yet I couldn't help but feel it was a little disjointed. Perhaps it's merely preopening glitches.
 
I rode Space Mountain yesterday at Disneyland, and X-S Tech's experience with the music is the very same as mine. The main ride portion (what I could hear of it) is the track that's available on the new CD now (a.k.a. "New Daytime Track"). But the launch and arrival tracks didn't seemlessly flow into and out of it. Of course, non-music geeks like us may never notice it, but I was paying attention, and it was unsatisfying. Damn our expectations! :)

I still enjoyed the ride, of course, but now I'm curious how an anticipated follow-up release of the full-length attraction music will sound. I do enjoy the enhancements to the 6-CD set, so I'm sure Randy will do just as good a job with SM.
 

Kenster

Member
Yep, I have to say the same thing. The track on the CDs is a partial one.

As I got in line around evening, I had enough time to listen to the outside queue area music. It sounded like new material although I could be wrong. I listened for anything that I might recognize and I didn't have any luck.

As you approach the entrance, the familiar com chat is playing.

As we walked through the halls rather quickly, I didnt notice if the chat was playing there. I did notice the new saftey film and it played on several different screens.

Halfway through the ride, the music suddenly cut off and that scared some of the riders that I rode with. We took it to the station without the music. It was good ol' Space Mountain again.

So, is there new "Bathroom Music?" ;)
 

Dr. Know

Member
I have now read several online accounts reporting that the music cut off abruptly during the ride, and then the ride ended in silence. I hope this problem is corrected before the official opening of the attraction!
 

xfkirsten

Member
That happens quite often on California Screamin', too... hopefully this doesn't bode poorly for Space's music... :(
 

BLM07

Member
What is up with California's problem with soundtracks on roller coasters? Rock N Roller Coaster seems to be working just fine, couldn't they use that system?
 

xfkirsten

Member
I've asked that question before too, and I was told that it's a design issue. The way the Screamin' cars were designed, the audio system has to be removed to work on the cars. So it ended up taking a lot of wear, quickly. The RnR cars were designed differently, and the audio system doesn't have to be removed to work on the cars, so they work better. At least that's how it was explained to me.
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
Supposedly the problem with the old Space Mountain's audio was that they transplanted the sound sytem onto the existing cars. Supposedly the new rockets are fully integrated (like I assume RNRC is) and therefore it shouldn't be a problem. One would think that with all of the problems that Space MOuntain used to have, they would have fixed it with Screamin' but of course I think the whole thing was bought off the shelf so audio integration was probably not an option. But they came in under budget!
 

ephemeral

New Member
Hello everybody. I went on the ride numerous times over 7/4 - 7/8. I have one live recording i made of the whole experience here:

http://ephemeral.info/sm2005/

I had the experience one of the other times that the sound cut off halfway.

I really loved the old Dick Dale guitar version. It was nice when you could actually hear it on the ride, which wasn't often.

I went into DCA when it first opened and you could hear the California Screamin' music every time. I didn't hear it one time during this trip.

There's one other track I heard in the queue right before you hear comm chat - got it off the sound-of-magic site - and it's up on my page as well.
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
That second piece that ephemeral posted, from the queue area, is just a piece of the larger Tomorrowland Loop that plays throughout the land (mostly from the Observatron). It's the 2003(?) WDW TOmorrowland Area music, updated with the Monorail Song.
 

BLM07

Member
There is a recording of the DL Tomorrowland loop :D ? Is the added monorail song a original version like the rest of the loop?
 

X-S Tech

Active Member
To my knowledge the WDW version is circulating, the DL one is not....yet. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

The monorail song in the loop is a new recording. Very synthesized like the rest of the loop.
 
Thankfully, the toilet music is still the same, the classic Promenade music we knew from Epcot ages ago. Now, you can only find its delightfully cheesy 70's synth in the toilets.

Does anyone have the loop going round unofficially of the Observatron? already got the Rocketeer soundtrack, so 1 down, what others are in there?

am also STILL looking for the outdoor Captain Eo music on the tv monitors while waiting, havent found yet.
 

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