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The Timekeeper / Le Visionarium

Discussion in 'Disney Parks and Resorts' started by SageofTime, Oct 2, 2002.

  1. SageofTime

    SageofTime New Member

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    Timekeeper Score/show?

    Howdy all,

    Does anybody have a copy or know where to find a recording of the score from the WDW version of Timekeeper? The WDW score is very different from the DLP version. Even show version would be great!

    Peace and Goodwill!
     
  2. rfeigels

    rfeigels New Member

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    Re:Timekeeper Score/show?

    I assume you're referring to Bruce Broughton's great score. I did just contact Disney about releasing a CD of Bruce's Disney Theme Park music (including ELLEN'S ENERGY ADVENTURE). Unfortunately, they've gotten really strict and won't license to third parties anymore. Disney music can only be released by Walt Disney Records. It's unfortunate because there's a lot of Disney music that won't be financially worthwhile for Disney Records to release, but third parties would be willing to take the risk. Hopefully that will change someday.

    Roger
     
  3. Dr. Know

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    :(

    That's really unfortunate, Roger. Bruce Broughton's Disney theme park music is really in a class of its own!
     
  4. X-S Tech

    X-S Tech Active Member

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    From Time to Time score question

    Can anyone give me any information on who wrote the score for From Time to Time? Also I'm wondering when the current version of WDW's score debuted. I noticed that it's different from DLP version but I've also heard a recording of WDW's show with the original (DLP) music. Any info? Thanks
     
  5. thx99

    thx99 Real-life Harry Caul Moderator Playlist Author

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    Re:From Time to Time score question

    I believe that Bruce Broughton scored both the WDW and DLP versions.
    IMO, the current WDW version is a better listen!

    I'm not sure when the WDW version premiered, however.
     
  6. GrizzlyHall

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    Re:From Time to Time score question

    XS Tech - you may have heard the Demo recording that WDI produced. In it, the DLP theme was used. Everything was rerecorded to its current state. Timekeeper opened in 1994, originally called "Le Transportaurium" (Spelling mistake in there, I'm sure). Its days *seem* to be numbered...but let's hope for the best. I too enjoy both versions of the theme (however, I fancy the WDW version more because of experience...and it reminds me of Dreamflight!)
     
  7. Alex K

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    Re:From Time to Time score question

    Hopefully both CoP and Timekeeper will stay on for a while, even if they run only at peak season.

    Does anyone have a complete recording of the queue music of the WDW version? (the DLP theme played in slow motion). I've made a live recording myself (2 or 3 times) but it's always been incomplete since at least a minute or two is played when the queue moves, and I've never been in the queue area when it's been quiet.
     
  8. s8ntmark

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    Timekeeper vs. Le Visionarium

    Ive just aquired a track that was labeled "Timekeeper demo" and not knowing why I just figured it was a mistake. The reason being is that it is the full Timekeeper show - and being a West Coast/DL boy, I would'nt know the difference.

    But later a friend informed me that that actually WAS a demo because it used the old Le Visionarium score instead of the the current Timekeeper score.

    My question is, Does anyone know WHY the music was changed? Listening to Le Visionariums' music I cant see why they would want to change it its GREAT. Maybe there was some political reason...maybe the composers fees were more expensive in the US.

    Thanks for your...TIME
    Mark!

    Oh and since I have you here....Is the actor who plays Jules Verne doing his own characters' voice in english for Timekeeper AND Is he the voice of the Phantom in Phantom Manor??

    thanks again
     
  9. DavidG

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    Re:Timekeeper vs. Le Visionarium

    I don't know the exact reasons why the music was changed, but it might have to do with the deletion and addition of scenes... or maybe they just thought American audiences would want a different style. I don't think it has anything to do with the composer, since -- as far as I know -- Bruce Broughton did both versions.

    As for Michel Piccoli, the actor who plays Jules Verne, yes, he does speak the English lines himself, but no, the Phantom in PM is voiced by another French actor, Gerard Chevalier. (Chevalier can also be heard as the French travel spot announcer in Star Tours and spoke the introduction to DLP's Captain EO.)

    I think Le Visionarium and PM have only one thing in common, and that's that I love both of them dearly... ;)

    David
     
  10. s8ntmark

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    Thanks david!

    If Bruce Broughton did both scores, the reason for a new score is probably a matter of American tastes. The reason being is because even with the addition or deletion of scenes, Im sure the composer could adapt his original score to the new length instead of coming up with all new stuff.

    Maybe the new score works better with the new dialogue translation, also. Either way, Im dying to hear the American version now...for comparison.

    Thanks again

    :)
     
  11. GrizzlyHall

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    Re:Timekeeper vs. Le Visionarium

    Yup...there are also several line differences between the demo and the actual show...which are quite amusing!

    Both scores are excellent. Although we don't have France's background music, it can still be heard in the entrance to the Magic Kingdom. ;)
     
  12. X-S Tech

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    DLP Timekeeper Question

    Does anyone know who does the English voice of Timekeeper in the translation you hear on the headphones at DLP? I remember thinking at the time that it was an actor who played Father in one version of Carousel of Progress but now I don't remember which version. My guess is that it was Jean Sheperd.
     
  13. DL FLIGHT 295

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    Re:DLP Timekeeper Question

    The English voice actor for Time Keeper is the same as the host father from Horizons.......his name escapes me......Gene Sheppard only did the last version of the Carousel of Progress. BTW the mom from Horizons was the same actress who played "Mother Nature" in the old Imperial margerine comercials.......LOL........"It's not Nice to Fool with Mother nature!"
     
  14. Burnsland

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    Re:DLP Timekeeper Question

    Those are the correct names for the Horizons voices, as listed on my Epcot Voices page.

    However, I doubt that Bob Holt is the English Timekeeper voice in Disneyland Paris. He passed away in 1985, which was before Disney even signed the agreement to build a park in France.
     
  15. DavidG

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    In that case it's made even more unlikely by the fact that -- as far as I know -- the current voice was added after the opening of the park. Originally, it seems, multilingual French actor Michel Leeb provided Timekeeper's voice for all four language versions.
     
  16. Dirk

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    Visionarium on the way out of DLRP

    Hey there, Hi there, Ho there,

    after numerous rumors it seems as if the Visionarium, the original Timekeeper at the Disneyland Paris, will close down for good on September 5, 2004.

    While not officially confirmed yet, the attraction has no more CMs scheduled for it as of September 6.

    It seems the closure ?s to cut costs only, as work for a replacement won't start before the "financial situation" of EuroDisney S.C.A. is resolved and investment money becomes available through issuing new shares next spring. In fact not even a decision has been made what will replace the Visionarium. Rumors mention Buzz though...


    Thought you wanted to know this as this means goodbye to another of the epic musical scores of DLRP. The next one in line to go is the Space Mountain one, once the attraction closes for its remodelling in January 2005.

    If any music related from DLRP comes up I will update you certainly in the meantime all the rumors and latest news about Visionarium, Space Mountain (Mission II) etc. can be found here: http://www.dlp.info/NewsAndRumours/Rumours.shtml


    Yours
    Dirk
     
  17. Dr. Know

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    Thanks, Dirk for the sad news. Will Steve Bramson's score be replaced as part of the remodeling of Space Mountain? Hope not...
     
  18. Dirk

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    Re:Visionarium on the way out of DLRP

    Official information regarding the makeover of SpaceMountain is not existing at all. Internally it is sometimes referred to as "Space Mountain Mission II" (e.g. in the material for their sponsors and partners) on the web it has been called "SuperNova" as this is the rumored theme. Based strictly on the rumors on the web the score by Bramson will be replaced. BUT: this is only a rumor at this point.

    @Bill: yep, Discoveryland is really heading down. Hopefully things will look a lot better once the "new" SpaceMountain is open. By the way: currently there are plans to run Autopia as of mid-february next year to compensate the closure of SpaceMountain.


    Yours
    Dirk
     
  19. SharonKurland

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    Re:Visionarium on the way out of DLRP

    Any chance that they'll lower the height limit for Space Mountain so I don't have to be sneaky and stand on my toes next time? 1.5 meters = 4.7" I'm 4'6.75" and 1 or 2 of the DLP CMs gave me a hard time.

    They didn't know who they were messing with. ;)

    -Sharon-
     
  20. Dirk

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    I looked it up for you and according to the offical brochure the height limit currently is 1.32 meters for SpaceMountain already and 1.20 meters for the Rock'n'Roller next doors at the Studios ... that should help. I did not even realize that they had lowered their height limits.
     

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