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Sound Clip Help!

Discussion in 'Archive' started by WishesFan, Apr 5, 2004.

  1. WishesFan

    WishesFan Member

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    Hey guys! I just got back from my first trip to LA with my showchoir. We performed at the Crystal Cathedral, Disneyland and America Sings! It was soooo much fun! (My very favorite ride was Soarin? Over California) All I can say is, WOW!!!!

    Anyway, I have been looking for sound clips of Walt Disney speaking for quite some time now to complete an original music project that is to be sent off to Jeff Funk and Bruce Healey. Anyway, I requested a copy of ?Ragtime at the Magical Kingdoms? (the last track is an interview with Walt) from my local library three weeks ago, and I have still heard nothing back.

    If anyone would be willing to help me find an MP3 version of the final track with Walt?s interview, I would greatly appreciate it! We could just do a file swap over AIM.

    Thanks so much!!!!!

    Sincerely,
    Rick
     
  2. dizney

    dizney New Member

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    Isn't this the same Rick (rickmok@earthlink.net) who, only a few days ago, wrote the following threat in an e-mail asking for help:

    "You know as well as I do that more music is being stolen these days on the internet. (By the way, the entire medley is ? so don?t even think about it! I WILL FIND YOU!!!)"

    AND

    "PPS: If you are one of those people that rips off composers by stealing their music, SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!"

    Sounds a little hypocritical to me ;D
     
  3. SharonKurland

    SharonKurland Active Member

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    Rick-

    That CD is readily available at Amazon.com, as well as other, smaller CD stores on the 'net...just do a Google search for the title (in quotes)...so you'll easily be able to find it for purchase.

    I own it and its a good one!

    -Sharon-
     
  4. Gurgitoy2

    Gurgitoy2 Active Member

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    Yes, it is pretty easy to find. I know for a fact that Footlight Records has it. I've also seen it at 20th Century Music at Disneyland. It's not really that rare. Also, there is quite a bit of Walt talking on the CD that comes with the "Disney Treasures" book. It's all pretty accessible.
     
  5. WishesFan

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    Thanks guys! I appreciate your help. Just for the record I take much offense to hypocrite comment! As I have explained before- there is a big difference in music sharing and stealing one?s song and claiming it as one?s original composition. For goodness sakes, who can honestly say they have never shared a music file? I don?t sell them and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER steal an original composition and claim it as my own!

    Whew. Anyway, I hope I have made my point. Thanks again for your guys help. Have a good day!

    Sincerely,
    Rick
     
  6. SharonKurland

    SharonKurland Active Member

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    > As I have explained before- there is a
    > big difference in music sharing and
    > stealing one?s song and claiming it as
    > one?s original composition.

    Yo're absolutely right!!!

    The first one is just in the midst of becoming a felony (Reps. John Conyers Jr. and Howard Berman have introduced a bill in Congress that makes illegal file swapping a felony. The bill carries penalties of up to five years in prison and up to a $250,000 fine).

    The second one is merely a misdemeanor.

    To put it into layman's terms, if you are getting an unauthorized copy of the CD tracks, or even just of the Walt quotes, it's stealing. Period. Even if you don't intend on claiming it as your own, it's still copyright infringement because you are knowingly taking copyrighted material without purchasing it.

    > For goodness sakes, who can honestly
    > say they have never shared a music file?

    Just because you think "everyone" does it (and just for the record, "everyone" doesn't) doesn't mean that it's legal.

    I strongly suggest that you PURCHASE the material in question.

    -Sharon-
     
  7. X-S Tech

    X-S Tech Active Member

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    I'm getting so tired of people claiming to be so innocent, just because the laws haven't been printed in black and white and posted to their forhead. I understand that we have to rationalize things to others, but be honest with yourself. Regardless of what the government decides to prosecute, downloading and sharing music without paying for it is clearly wrong. Following any logical train of thought leads to that conclusion. Someone makes something and you take it without paying. In any other situation that would be illegal. It would be illegal even if you were in no danger of ever being caught. Even if everyone else was doing it. I'm not judging or saying that you should be ashamed, but don't pretend like you didn't know. Majority does not dictate true ethics.
     
  8. X-S Tech

    X-S Tech Active Member

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    Although, to totally flip flop my position.....

    I believe that under copyright law, in the days before CDs, it was perfectly legal to make a copy of an album for a friend. The logic being that a few people making one copy at a time wouldn't impact actual sales.
    So if anyone cares to take pity and send wishesfan an analog version...
     
  9. SharonKurland

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    > I believe that under copyright law,
    > in the days before CDs, it was
    > perfectly legal to make a copy of an
    > album for a friend.

    Although I don't know that for sure, I doubt it.

    > The logic being that a few people making
    > one copy at a time wouldn't impact
    > actual sales.

    Well, it WOULD...just not a whole LOT .

    Seriously though, if it was legal to "make a copy for a friend," why did they still say no audiotaping equipment for as far back as audotaping equipment was small enough to be smuggled in, when you'd go to a concert?

    I think it was just as illegal...it just wasn't as pronounced because it would take 90 minutes to make each audiotape (so there would be less of them), not the .9 seconds that it takes to burn a copy that didn't have clicks, hums, etc.

    -Sharon-
     
  10. X-S Tech

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    Actually Sharon, I was quite surprised to find these things out too. I read a basic breakdown of Copyright law as it applies to music in the LA Times several months ago when all those people were being prosecuted for Downloading. Below is an excerpt from an email explanation a friend sent me on some copyright basics.

    "...there is possible ways to use copyrighted works within a new work without permission. This is called "fair use". Copyright law uses 4 main guidelines to determine if a work is fair use they are: a) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature, or non-profit educational purposes (it has already been noted that commercial use doesnt neccessarily disbar fair use) b) the nature of the copyrighted work c) the the amount and substantantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole. d) the effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of the copyrighted work. and there are also subheadings uder these that qualify as fair use as well: parody, and historical, review, or commentary purposes. "
     
  11. SharonKurland

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    AND, to make it all go just a little bit further...in my quest for more information on the topic, it's been determined that peer-to-peer copying has been deemed ABSOLUTELY LEGAL in Canada. Goes right up there with cheaper medicine, I guess... (Oooo...MEDS!...seeing if 1313 is paying attention or not ).

    -Sharon-
     

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