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Question about Hall of Presidents WDWF tracks

Discussion in 'Archive' started by wedroy1923, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. wedroy1923

    wedroy1923 Moderator Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Hello:

    Could anyone provide information about the three Hall of Presidents tracks from Walt Disney World Forever?

    The three tracks are:

    America the Beautiful
    Battle Hymn of the Republic
    Hail to the Chief

    Where are the America the Beautiful and Battle Hymn of the Republic tracks played in the show? I can't quite place them. Or are they not necessarily taken from the show itself but rather exist as stand alone pieces put on the Forever system?

    Was Hail to the Chief re-scored for the new show in 1993?

    I really like the tracks - Buddy Baker had a way with the patriotic music; I also love his Lincoln and American Adventure pieces.

    Thanks in advance for any information,
    wedroy1923
     
  2. X-S Tech

    X-S Tech Active Member

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    All I know is that they do all come from the show, but I couldn't tell you more than that. These are some of my favorite pieces from WDWForever.
     
  3. TempoBayResort

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    That track called "America the Beautiful" is not the song we all know about "amber waves of grain." Instead, it is a piece of score created for that 90s remake. The reason it is so titled is because the familiar "America the Beautiful" is quoted within it; a sort of leitmotif.

    "Hail to the Chief" is from the Hall of Presidents roll-call at the end of the show. It is not original to the 1971 show either. It was re-scored for the new version of the film.

    I don't know anything about the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" piece, because I don't have it to hear. But my guess is that the all the WDW Forever tracks for Presidents were from the new score.
     
  4. Gurgitoy2

    Gurgitoy2 Active Member

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    I would say you're right about that. They did this at Disneyland too, with the Forever System. Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln had only bits from the new show (well, the 1984 version), but none of the original tracks were released on the system. So, I would guess the same held true for Hall of Presidents.
     
  5. jmcalister

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    The Battle Hymn of the Republic (last verse and chorus or maybe just chorus) is played at the very end of the show as the sky turns into a US flag and the curtain falls. I believe this is the same arrangement that formerly provided the ending for Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln.
     
  6. wedroy1923

    wedroy1923 Moderator Premium Member Playlist Author

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    The Battle Hymn of the Republic track released on WDWF - like the America the Beautiful track - is not the traditional song that plays at the end of the show. It must a score piece from the film because it circles back into the "theme" in the America the Beautiful track.

    wedroy1923
     
  7. Eric Paddon

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    None of the original underscoring for the original HOP show has sadly ever been released (except for parts of it that were recycled from the original World's Fair "Great Moments" program which is available in its music only version).
     
  8. wedroy1923

    wedroy1923 Moderator Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Eric:

    Can you tell me anymore about how the Great Moments music was employed at HOP? My understanding was that Baker used an earlier piece he composed - Johnny Shiloh, I think - for Great Moments. Is that what was also included in the original HOP score.

    It's been mentioned many times, but yeah, the original HOP score would be great to have!

    Thanks,
    wedroy1923
     
  9. Eric Paddon

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    The part that was recycled is what leads up to the Lincoln speech and the underscore for the Lincoln speech itself (don't know if that's "Johnny Shiloh") except for the fact that in HOP it runs shorter to accomodate the shorter length of the Lincoln speech after the "All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined" part that then segues into "Battle Hymn Of The Republic".

    For me the underscore part I'd love to hear most isolated is the low fanfare as the curtains opened and you saw the painting of Independence Hall, and the camera zoomed in, and then later the ominous chords as the scene shifted from the Whiskey Rebellion to the Nullification Crisis.

    The downloaded video of the original HOP program, which I still miss dearly, was must viewing for me today!
     
  10. Fantasmic

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    America the beautiful is the first part of the film, through the election of Lincoln.

    Battle Hymn of the Republic is the second part of the film, starting at "If you are inclined to believe.." and ending ait "As long as the dream endures"

    Does anybody have any of the actual score used during Clinton/Bush and Lincoln's speeches, as well as the concluding Battle Hymn?
     
  11. wedroy1923

    wedroy1923 Moderator Premium Member Playlist Author

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    Fantasmic:

    Thanks so much - that was kind of what I was thinking, but I'm glad to have some verification beyond my hunch!

    wedroy1923
     
  12. musicradio77

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    The song "Battle Hymn of the Republic" was also taken from "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" at Disneyland and prior to that, the 1964-65 New York World's Fair.
     
  13. Eric Paddon

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    Except that the "Battle Hymn Of The Republic" they use in the current HOP is not the same arrangement from the old HOP program (which did go back to the original Lincoln program at the Fair, though sometime in the 80s it was actually redone to end on a more soaring note) nor in fact is the WDWF cue "Battle Hymn" even the traditional song itself.
     
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