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New Sherman Sampler Announced...

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Dirk, Jan 18, 2003.

  1. Dirk

    Dirk Member

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    Hey there, Hi there, Ho there,

    as the subject says: a new CD with a collection of some of the best songs of the Sherman Bros. has been announced - not by WDR but by the acclaimed label Fynsworth Alley (http://www.fynsworthalley.com), which is providing stage musical fans with wonderful releases this it was founded after Varese Sarabande closed down its Broadway department...

    So far this is all information available:

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    THE MUSIC OF THE SHERMAN BROTHERS - Believe
    New CD Coming in February! Featuring songs by Susan Egan,Jason Graae, Michele Pawk, and many more! More details coming soon!

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  2. FRAN?OIS

    FRAN?OIS Member

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    Dirk,

    We have to thank Bruce Kimmel for this one. Bruce, unfortunately, was shamefully ousted of this Company one year ago, and nothing really interesting has been coming out of it.

    I, for one, thought this cd would never be released....
    I can't wait for it!!!!!

    For those into Broadway musicals, Bruce Kimmel has a marvellous site where he posts EVERY SINGLE DAY:
    haineshisway.com

    and he should be back into cd producing SOON.....

    Ain't that supercalifragilisticexpialidocious news??
     
  3. chris

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    Thanks for the news. This will probably be a great CD. Can't wait.

    Am I right in assuming these will all be new recordings?
     
  4. Gurgitoy2

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    It will be nice to have stuff from Charlotte's Web availible on CD. Too bad it won't be the original recordings though.

    This does look like a great CD to own though!!
     
  5. chris

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    That cover art is great. Good choices and design. It has me really anticipating it.
     
  6. Dirk

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    Hey there, Hi there, Ho there,

    Chris: yes, it will be all new recordings ... the prerelease notice says by "Susan Egan,Jason Graae, Michele Pawk, and many more" ... which is basically the "usual" talented group of performers from Broadway that Bruce Kimmel gets for his wonderful CDs (like the "Cinderella" or "Peter Pan" CDs you might still remember which he produced for Varese Sarabande back then featuring songs from several different musical incorporations of these tales).


    Yours
    Dirk
     
  7. sam253

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    I wonder what Susan sings on the CD...
     
  8. MikkiMom

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    Thanks for the news! I've already checked out the website and found a few other CD's I'll have to put on my wish list. The cover art on this one looks terrific. Can't wait!

    MM
     
  9. chris

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    Dirk, I've never heard those particular two CDs from Varese Sarabande, although I've seen them in stores a lot. I should check them out. I have a few other titles from their label though, including Judy Kuhn's CD.

    I saw some things on their website to put on my wish list too, MikkiMom! They have some nice selections. I was surprised at hearing the samples from Megan Mullally's CD. She has an interestingly nice voice.

    While visting their site I also saw the page they have for the "Forbidden Hollywood" CD which unfortunately is no longer in print. I did not realize that there was a Mary Poppins section on it. I played the sample clip and it sounds pretty funny. The woman doing Julie really sounds like her. Now I'm on the lookout for a copy of "Forbidden Hollywood". No one has it in stock anymore. They still all carry the "Forbidden Broadway" series, but the hollywood one is not in print anymore. Nothing on ebay either. If anyone has any suggestions on where I could obtain a copy, please let me know.

    Thanks,
    Chris
     
  10. Dirk

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    HI Chris,

    I'd say your best bet (betetr than e-bay) should be: Footlight Records in New York City. They have specialized in show and movie music and have a really large section of Disney stuff from all around the world too. As they are highly specialized they usually have old and sold out stuff years longer or get it back in. Try your luck there ... they have a website at http://www.footlight.com/ if if tehy don't have in stock right now I would advise you to call them and ask maybe they get it back in ...

    Or try Dress Circle, London, the major shop for Europe which specialized in show (and movie) music. Their website can be found at http://www.dresscircle.co.uk ... according to their website they have the Forbidden Hollywood CD available (http://www.dresscircle.co.uk/product.asp?StockID=3576).



    Yours
    Dirk
     
  11. Michael Zielski

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    Thank you so much, Dirk, for letting us all know about this upcoming CD! The Sherman brothers are surely at the heart of Walt Disney's musical legacy, one of the ever-diminishing direct links to Walt himself. I love the interview with them on the Mary Poppins CD, reminiscing about times spent relaxing with Walt in his office--ah, those were the days! I had the opportunity to meet Robert Sherman, and buy a piece of his art work, just by chance, last summer, as we were strolling through the "leftovers" at the Disneyana convention at WDW. I didn't know he was appearing there, and I just about passed out when I spotted him! Needless to say, we did the whole pose-for-a-picture-with-the-artist thing--wow, what a thrill!

    Fynsworth Alley is a great site, thanks again--I found out more about Judy Kuhn(great CD--Just In Time, Judy Kuhn Sings Jule Styne) and Susan Egan(also a great CD, So Far, which I found, when I linked to her own site, you can get autographed through her website--$20).

    I also didn't know about the footlight.com site--international CD's! And I had just ordered from cdjapan! By the way, for anyone who doesn't have the out-of-print(in this country, anyway) Walt Disney Records compilation CD, The Sherman Brothers(as we are speaking about them), I surprisingly stumbled on it on the cdjapan site, still available--approx. $20.

    One final thought, speaking of Walt Disney Records--why isn't Walt Disney Records themselves producing music like this great upcoming tribute? In the "Golden Age" of Walt Disney Records, so many "non-mainstream" titles were released, like "Tinpanorama," again speaking of the Shermans, an LP of Sherman brothers songs done in various musical styles of the last century--I'm sure the LP didn't go gold--but wait, I think I answered my own question--isn't there a thing about Mr. Eisner and GOLD? Mike.
     
  12. Mike Frezon

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    Dirk! Keep that good kind of news coming! ;D
     
  13. FRAN?OIS

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    ALL details are NOW posted on

    www.fynsworthalley.com

    listing of songs and artists!!!!

    Should be out soon this month, and, so far, the price is right:

    $0.00. Who could ask for anything more????
     
  14. chris

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    That song line up sounds fantastic. I love that they included songs from things like The Parent Trap. This disc should be a lot of fun.
     
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    I thought you'd like to read this comment by Bruce Kimmel that was posted on his site this past february 4th:

    "Do you know what I just saw? I saw a track list for the upcoming release of The Sherman Brothers Album, an album I conceived and put together, did the arrangements for, recorded, but did not mix or comp vocals for. Well, guess what, dear readers - there is a track missing - oh, yes, there is a track missing. And do you know what that track is? It's a Busker Alley song entitled Tin Whistle Tune. And do you know who the singer on that track was? Why our very own Guy Haines, that's who. Can you imagine such a thing? I have informed Mr. Haines of this and I cannot repeat his comment here. So, not only do I not receive producer or arranger credit on an album that I recorded, my very close personal friend, Mr. Guy Haines, gets axed from the album. What shall we think of such things?"

    I will let you in on a little "secret": Bruce Kimmel - who as been abusively fired over a year ago by that label - and Guy Haines are the SAME person....

    We'll have to thank Mr Kimmel for that wonderful new cd....
     
  17. FRAN?OIS

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    Sorry, me again but I thought you'd like to also read those other comments made by Bruce Kimmel:


    "Stephen asks how I chose the songs for the Sherman Brothers Album? Did I review all of their output or just stick to the ones I was familiar with? Did the Shermans have any part in the prep work for the album? Dick Sherman gave me several LPs and songbooks, although I was pretty familiar with their output. I definitely chose some songs I?d not been familiar with before. But I went through everything and then made my choices. He loved every choice I made and felt it was a good sampling of their work. My delight, of course, came in the two long medleys I did ? one of their teen love songs, and one of all their nonsense word songs. Of course, I get no credit for those arrangements, but I think anyone who knows my work at all will know from whence they came. Dick was at the sessions in LA, too, and had a ball ? he loved all my casting choices and he was like a little kid when he heard our wonderful orchestra and the great charts of David Siegel. I?m fairly certain they consulted him on the finished product, probably enlisted his help I would imagine. I have no idea if they mixed the tracks from scratch (doubtful) or if they used the rough orchestra mixes that I used to record the vocals to."
     
  18. FRAN?OIS

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    Thought you'd all be jiggy about this :

    Believe: The Songs Of The Sherman Brothers

    Price: $16.99
    New release!


    NOT YET AVAILABLE TO ORDER
    COMING APRIL 15th, 2003

    http://www.fynsworthalley.com
     
  19. chris

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    Hey, looks like they changed the cover art. Perhaps that was why there was a further hold up on the release. I must say, I liked the first cover better. Legal issues probably. Too bad. It's nice to see the picture of the Shermans, but that first cover was really nice.

    Thanks for the update on the release. I've been waiting for this one.
     
  20. FRAN?OIS

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    Please check the Richard Sherman interview :

    http://www.fynsworthalley.com/sd/index.cgi

    and today's comments by Bruce Kimmel :


    Late last night Michael Shayne posted some of the interview with Richard Sherman that appears elsewhere. There are several inaccuracies (mostly where the interviewer has mis-heard things) and I'm going to set the record straight right now:

    I conceived the album.

    I did all the musical arrangements (I receive no credit for them - they refused, and I got tired of the game).

    I cast all the singers.

    I recorded and produced all the instrumental sessions, and all the vocal sessions for the entire album. Two or three tracks that Grant Geissman arranged (it will be interesting to see if they even credit him) hadn't been finished and so those are the ones that the "new" producer probably added the sax to.

    When Mr. Sherman says that the tapes hadn't been chosen, he means "vocal takes". That is correct. Brent Barrett did have to come back and rerecord his vocal which was "lost" (it wasn't lost, they just didn't know where it was - they could have asked, of course, and I would have told them for Brent's sake).

    The implication, at least as I read it, is that the album had to be completely redone. Sorry, boys, but much as you'd like to put out that spin it just isn't so. Someone else comped the vocals (IF they comped the vocals) and someone else mixed it (which is why I didn't want the producer credit). The only session Mr. Sherman was present at was the orchestra session, which I produced. I can't imagine that anything was done to those tracks because we had a large orchestra and they were completely orchestrated by David Siegel.

    There, I feel better now
     

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