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New Pirates attraction soundtrack

Discussion in 'Archive' started by TicketMediaGuy, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. TicketMediaGuy

    TicketMediaGuy Member

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    At 11am this past Sunday I was fortunate to ride the refurbished PIRATES of the Carribean attraction at Disneyland right after the press had their chance to ride it.

    The tweaks they made to the music and dialogue are WONDERFUL... but now I gotta find a way to have that in my possession... You know?
     
  2. X-S Tech

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    Can you tell us, besides cleaning up old stuff and dialogue for new figures, what audio changes were made? I hear they put some of the film score in the Fort Battle scene. What else?
     
  3. The Trout

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    From what I've seen so far, besides the occasional music changes:

    * Davy Jones appears and replies to the "Dead Men Tell No Tales" voice with some new dialogue.

    * Barbossa on the Wicked Wench says a lot of the old Captain's dialogue, but makes mention specifically of Jack Sparrow.

    * The pirates at the well are trying to find out the location of "Jack Sparrow and the treasure!"

    * The Pooped Pirate now brags about putting one over on Jack Sparrow, as he's in possession of the map to the town's treasure.

    * Jack greets us at the end of the ride by singing along with "Yo Ho" and offering us a cut of the treasure.

    That's all I've managed to gather so far. Note that I haven't actually ridden the ride. I've just gleaned this from other boards.
     
  4. X-S Tech

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    Actually the majority of people, yes. I'm curious to see it, hoping that the changes are organic and we won't ride pirates in five years and think, "What were they thinking?!". But all of the reviews from trusted friends have been very positive.
     
  5. BLM07

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    I don't care about the movies, so I don't like the changes related to the movies.
     
  6. TicketMediaGuy

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    SPOILER ALERT*SPOILER ALERT*SPOILER ALERT

    Mind you, this is from riding through only ONCE... so I may have missed something in the audio department.... I'm better with visuals on this one.

    Past the second drop is where the soundtrack has been changed. It's spookier, and takes it's cues from the movie soundtrack. Visually, they've updated the lighting with major amounts of blue LEDs.

    Going through the chambers has musically changed - still the movie soundtrack. Visually, the steering wheel skeleton has recieved a healthy dose of new lighting.

    The dark looming tunnel has no music now. Just the dialogue of "DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES". 3/4 through the dark black tunnel is a Fantasmic - like effect showing a larger than life Davey Jones. Because of the twists and turns in the tunnel, you think the image is being projected onto the wall so it looks like a water fall with a huge Davey Jones head peering through it. But it's actually being projected onto thin air so your boat actually goes through the image.

    The Battle scene. Someone mentioned all the Barbosa effects, so no need to say anything there. There's more fog. LOTS more fog. So much fog that some of it doesn't settle on the water anymore. It's like a dream, really.

    Turning the bend is the well scene. Not only do the pirates dunk Carlos asking him where Jack Sparrow is, but JACK SPARROW makes his first appearance as one of them new fangled up to date animatronics. You first see the dunking scene, but as you continue on, you see Jack Sparrow hiding among some old manequin dummies listening to the action and ducking aside as he hears the gunshots. If you ask me, my boat wasn't going slow enough. That robot looked extremely lifelike and moved exceptionally well. I could have sworn that that was indeed Johnny!

    The bride auction hasn't changed... still selling them off as usual.

    Going under the tunnel find the pirate next to barrell. Remember back when it was a lady hiding from the pirate in the barrell? Then it was a cat? Now it's Jack Sparrow! He's listening to what the old pirate has to say about treasure. Every so often he ducks into the barrel.

    The city is now burning, and it's burning the same as always.

    Into the final pirate chamber and it's the same. Until you hit the chain lift. Look to your left as Jack Sparrow is surrounded in treasure while he rocks in a rocking chair singing a few strings of "Yo Ho". He's changed the lyrics a bit to invite you to his treasure. This animatronic rocks, moves his hands, moves his mouth and his head. It's very complex. Going up the chain lift has the same underscore as we're used to. The eyes on the left that glow green and blink on and off are still there.

    Pretty much the only noticeably different portions of underscore happen at the begining of the attraction. The rest seems to have stayed the same.
     
  7. xfkirsten

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    Add my vote for someone who wants a release of this newer version! I've been on it a number of times in the last week, and love it! I really love that spooky version "Yo Ho" played just past the second drop.
     
  8. nelsonj3

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    I agree! I love the changes to the ride's soundtrack. I would love to have a copy of the new, eerie version of Yo Ho. I scanned both movie soundtracks, and I couldn't find it on either of them. It must be new. I also like the addition of the movie music to the battle scene.

    Overall an excellent refurb. I can't wait to ride the WDW version.
     
  9. X-S Tech

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    Any idea if the music in the fort battle scene is a direct lift from one of the soundtracks or recorded specially for the attraction?
     
  10. The Trout

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    I'm pretty sure they're all lifts from Dead Man's Chest. For the record, I believe the minor-key dark 'Yo Ho' in the opening caverns is from the very beginning of the film. I can't be SURE, because Disney didn't see fit to put that cue on the soundtrack, but I'm, like, 89% certain.

    Can't place the battle music, though. Seems to just be culled from one of the many instances of the main Pirates "adventure" theme.
     
  11. xfkirsten

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    I believe that at least part of that music comes from the Dead Man's Chest track "The Kraken," starting at about 6:15 on that track. It sounded really similar. If nothing else, it's played somewhere in the attraction now, because I recognized it immediately the first time I listened to the CD.
     
  12. WDWGuy08

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    i know the music that plays during the fort batle is from pirates of the caribbean: dead man's chest OST track 4 "i've got my eye on you" from 1:34 to 2:05 and loopd over and over and over again during that scene. i've ehard that the organ piece davy jones plays in the movie that is slightly different on the cd is played in the cave scene where the davy jones projection is on the mist a little before and after it. i'm not sure though sounds different to me more like a new pirates of the caribbean theme "yo ho, yo ho" version. the rest is the same as far as i know! i also heard that "he's a pirate" from the first movie' score cd, plays at the end but i haven't heard it yet, can anyone cnfirm this?
     
  13. Joseph

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    So basically the only remaining dialogue from the wonderful voice work of Paul Frees is the Auctioneer. Not going to make Paul Frees fans happy. I'm with those hoping these are just temporary changes while the movies are currently popular and that they will eventually bring back the original show, a show which was completely original and not based on any movie. In my opinion, these changes completely alter the original intent of the Imagineers.
     
  14. X-S Tech

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    Well the auctioneer is the one big Paul Frees voice, but several of the "lesser" pirates still use Frees' voice. Yeah the loss of Frees dialogue bothers me more than music changes.
     
  15. MaX

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    I'd like to point out i've only seen the new additions to the ride on video, so i'm not in a fair position to judge, but i'll still do so ;)

    while it's a pitty to loose the voice of Paul Frees that has functioned so well over the years, judging on the video, i think the replacement is not worse, if not better because people can identify more with the character from Barbossa.
    Altough I'm not a big fan of the movie, I think most of the attraction changes didn't affect the overall experience of the ride, if not only enhanced it, because it includes the whole pirate world created by the movies. While Disneyland purists like us like to ride attractions in an original state, most people don't bother. And as I think most of the changes did do the ride no harm, I think the overall re-do is an improvement on the POTC experience for the regular visitor.
    For quite a while I hoped they would once update pirates with a more exciting/darker soundtrack in some parts. We're way pass the gay sixties, and themeparks and their audiences have changed quite a bit, and I think trading some jolly-ness for a bit more adventurous mood wouldn't hurt the ride at all.
    Even though I hate the mediaventures soundtrack in general, including parts of it wasn't a bad idea I think.
    Though the rumours about the music from The Kraken really worries me, because that track seems too 'modern' to fit the ride (or a pirate movie in general, for that matter...)

    There are rumours that some of these changes will make it to paris for the release of the third movie if they prove succesfull in the states (and if dlp's budget allows it), and I really hope it's true. I've been thinking that redressing one of the infamous swordfighters to Jack Sparrow would be quite a cheap and good change, allowable in pretty much any budget. And one of the fighters looks like Will Turner already anyway.
     
  16. Michael Zielski

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    Has anyone been on the WDW version yet--same changes??? I initially thought that just a character or two were being "snuck in," but this sounds a bit more radical than that.....

    I've been a Pirates fan ever since my first ride back in 1967, opening year. I suppose that even Walt might've put his stamp of approval on an update, as he thought of Disneyland as an evolving project--but I'll remain a little nervous until I see the changes for myself in Florida.

    Mike
     
  17. Ximagineer

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    Haven't seen the FL version yet (even though its 10 minutes away from my house!) but I did just get back from Disneyland and rode their version a couple of times.

    I rode it with some apprehension, having seen so many of these rehabs go bad (i.e. Imagination) but I felt that this was "just enough" to get Jack Sparrow and the movie characters in the ride without upsetting the spirit of the attraction. It could have gone alot worse, and I was glad that WDI showed some restraint on this one!

    I can't say the same things about the Mansion Attic re-hab though... but that's another post for another time! :)
     
  18. Michael Zielski

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    Aaaah.....thanks, that's reassuring......"just enough" and "restraint" sounds about right! Hopefully I'll be seeing it for myself in a month or so.

    Mike
     
  19. dizneydomenic

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    OK, my 2 cents worth. I got to ride the attraction this past week. It does have a diff feel ( lets face it after all these years.....ANY new music or figure changes stick out. The first drops use of a music only version of Yo Ho as a theme as oppoased to words...i like. Second drops use of movies spooky yo ho is EXCELLENT. I believe the lightning effect behind the steering skeleton is new.
    Davy JOnes is a neat addition . I kinda miss the original captain on ship but Barbosa is ok. The Jack Sparrow figures are INCREDIBLE! Is it Johnny or not? WOW.
     

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