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America Sings Entrance Music

Discussion in 'Archive' started by X-S Tech, May 20, 2003.

  1. X-S Tech

    X-S Tech Active Member

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    I heard a recording of "Columbia Gem of The Ocean" that supposedly played as guests loaded the theater of America Sings. Can anyone confirm this? It sounded real, and reminded me a lot of the Mr Lincoln Load Music. Very rich and mellow. Makes me think of a hot Summer day and the air conditioned comfort of those turqoise theatre seats (America Sings not Lincoln). Also does anyone know if anything besides this played or was it just the one piece?
     
  2. X-S Tech

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    ...also was there any music that played outside the AS building?
     
  3. Louis Gonzalez

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    Good news,
    You already HAVE the entrance music to America Sings! Yes, if you have the Disneyland Forever tracks, then you have it. The track at the end of the show is the same as the Entrance music. In fact, that piece is long because at the end of the show, it would start playing and continue playing until the next round of people came in. When the track ended, a new show would begin. So, the Exit music is ALSO the Entrance music. I'm 100% sure of this. In fact, I just played a live video recording I have to confirm. As far as any outside music, I don't think there was any, but I'm not sure of that. SO this mysterious track you have....not sure where it fits in this whole puzzle. Label it Mystery track. :)
     
  4. ex-wdi

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    Louis is right - however, I have that track as well - the tags name it as "Exit music" - I think more likely that it was used as "holding" music that would play in the background only if the theatre took a long time to load. Of course, once the show was in motion for the day, they wouldn't be able to just hold the guests in the first scene, since others would be in other scenes in the show! I don't remember hearing this music in person, as every time I rode it they would try & start the show right away...
     
  5. s8ntmark

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    Yeah, I dont remember there ever being a rich melodic score anywhere in AS...It doesnt really seem to fit. I just figured the "exit music" from the DLF track was the entrance music as well (it goes on long enough).

    But honestly, I dont remember there being any music playing OUT outside...so maybe Im wrong.
     
  6. Gurgitoy2

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    I don't remember any either, and my family made a point to go on that attraction every time we visited Disneyland. So I got to go on it lots of times (I'm sure glad I did).
     
  7. 1313

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    Regarding the aforementioned edition of "Columbia, The Gem Of The Ocean" (written by David T. Shaw in 1843), it might be worth mentioning that America Sings had six theaters and four scenes as well as the two load and unload "scenes." Each segment (including load and unload) lasted five seconds shy of four minutes.

    After waiting in line, patrons entered a theater and were seated. Ten seconds after the doors opened, "Columbia, The Gem Of The Ocean" (1:35) started playing as background music. Five seconds after it ended, the brief introductory load show started and ran for just over two minutes. At that point, the theater would rotate to the "Old West" set before rotating again after 3:55 had passed This pattern was repeated three more times until patrons arrived at the unload set. The brief "Goodbye, goes the weasel!" scene played out and the up-tempo exit music started and *ended* before the theater rotated back to load.

    As the load set was not the same as the unload set (they were very similar but I believe a zoo flat was featured in unload to help the ride operators distinguish it from load), I am unsure how anyone might hear the unload music in the load theater as the tag music ended before rotation. I personally sat and waited for the music to end dozens of times before exiting the theater. (Ride operators still had about a minute to kick out any stragglers before rotation.)

    However, I suppose it is possible that the track might have been re-stared during rotation as in early '81, the load version of "Columbia" was no longer utilized. I never heard the unload music in the first theater, though. After they stopped using "Columbia" there was no audio at all until the introductory show started.
     
  8. 1313

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    Make that four more times...
     
  9. Gurgitoy2

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    So, where can I find a copy of this "Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean" track? I would love to put it in with the rest of my America Sings audio. I love that attraction (even if it was out-of-place in Tomorrowland). It's a sentimental favorite along with Adventure Thru Inner Space.

    Ben C.
     
  10. Kenster

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    I have four versions of America Sings that are all live and it's not Columbia, Gem of the Ocean that is playing when you enter the theater. Read on. :)

    One of the stereo recordings I made was about a month before America Sings closed. I did this as I knew the show was going down. There was load music and unload music. The load/unload song that plays is "Stars and Stripes Forever," by Phillip Sousa. Hence, Sam the Eagle is in his patriotic clothing during load/unload. The load spiel is given during a certain section in the music or "que" if you will. I believe it was when the saxophone plays near the end of the track. All four spiels I hear begin there. The unload spiel is given as soon as the same song starts. What's interesting is as the drum fillers occur, the song seems to take a different direction. As I listen to the recordings, I don't hear any que music. It's nothing but rocket jets and autopia cars rattling. What's very odd is that with my recordings, as I exit America Sings, there is always a live band playing which sort of "continues" on as stars and stripes fades away.
     
  11. Gurgitoy2

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    Well, Kenster, since you say your recordings are month/s before America Sings closed, I'm not surprised that "Columbia Gem of the Ocean" was not heard. As 1313 said above, it appears to have been dropped as of at least 1981.

    I remember that marching band too. Wasn't it called Tomorrowland Brass or something like that? They were always around, and they were fun to watch.
     
  12. Kenster

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    Actually, only one of the recordings is just before it went down. The other ones are from previous years. However, I don't think they date back to 1981. I think the first one is 1985. I really don't remember anything but Stars and Stripes forever playing there. ;)
     
  13. DC-88 Spaceliner

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    EX-WDI WINS THE PRIZE!!


    Yep....that "America Sings" tarck of "Columbia The Gem Of The Ocean" was recorded with the intent to be used as a overlap tarck if say forexample the theater could not rotate in time to the shows soundtrack.or some other timing delay. The track "got" out to collectors via Disney records many years ago. Back when the retail album of America Sings was being set up.WED folks set Disneyland Records the entire show track recordings.......which included the "Columbia" track too. It was left of the album and apratently out of the actual attraction too. If it was ever used, there was no trace of it left with the DL sound Department AND on the diagrams for America Sings all sound cabinet tracks are identified.........for everything...but there is no mention or listing of a second exit/entry track or even a breakdown track.at least with extended music. Those MAPO/WED things are pretty accurate. There is a starnges call out for a track called "America Sings-The Del Monte Tamato Rag"........Hmmmm..............ok. just kidding on that one!!


    DC-88 Spaceliner

    Chris: as for the Tomorrowland book.......: how's LOOKING BACK AT TOMORROW ????? Mike
     
  14. DC-88 Spaceliner

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    Oh: also there was no extierior music for "America Sings"..............and by the time the energy crises started.alsomost no exterior lighting!!



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  15. 1313

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    Just reviewed a live recording (April '75) of America Sings to confirm that "Columbia, The Gem Of The Ocean" was used as load background music as detailed earlier. There it was, in all of its minute and a half glory. (Only twenty seconds or so are found on my cassette as I was attempting to record the "real" show and capturing the end of "Columbia" was incidental.)

    With regard to "Columbia" apparently not showing up in WED/MAPO/DL Sound Dept. records -- I'm not really that surprised. As it was part of the original load sequence, it was probably rolled into the pre-show along with everything else. Also, once it was no longer used, perhaps all references to it were removed as well?

    Ride leads of that era have told me that there was never was any audio "contingency plan" for either CoP or AS if the theater was unable to rotate due to load or unload issues. The audience would just sit through the same act twice. It makes little sense that such a short cue would have been recorded for such a purpose. If the theater was unable to rotate due to mechanical issues, the audience would be walked out and the attraction shut down.

    On the other hand, it does make sense that a 1:35 track would be recorded as load music as when combined with the brief load show one ends up with EXACTLY the right timing used for every other "act" (other than unload, which is about 40 seconds shorter than the others).

    "Columbia, The Gem Of The Ocean" was used as America Sings load music until sometime in early '81.

    As I recall visits prior to '81 where "Columbia" was not utilized perhaps this seemingly simple audio cue was problematic from the get-go. I suppose that might explain why it was eventually dropped all together.

    In spite of all of this, I am delighted to learn that ex-wdi has been awarded some sort of prize. Congratulations!
     
  16. DC-88 Spaceliner

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    very cool that there is some proof of that being used.......however as far as having guests exited because of the theater "carriage" not functioning......as much as i love COP and America Sings i can recall several times of having to see multiple act performaces.....most grueling was in WDW having to sit thru the 1940's act no less than FOUR TIMES!!!!! and i remember siting thru America Sings in the OLD SOUTH act twice.........once with sound the other without.while we could hear the audio in the two adjoinging theaters............LOL!



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  17. 1313

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    I was referring solely to mechanical issues which prevented the theater ring from rotating safely. During such occasions, audience members were escorted out of the theaters and the attraction was closed until the problem(s) could be resolved. This wasn't really much of an issue in Anaheim until the "break-away" theater-to-theater panels were installed after the unfortunate America Sings accident.

    The safety notification system routinely indicated false zone "breaches" and the theaters would not rotate until both an attraction lead and a security guard (the system triggered an alarm at Security, as well) verified that no one or no thing was "stuck" in any of the break-away panels - and they reset the system. Adding to the fun was the fact that the work lights automatically turned on whenever the system indicated that a breach had occurred.

    Much of the time, the attraction operated with the safety system disabled as the ride operators got tired of needlessly emptying out the theaters. After only a couple of years, it was common for a RO to welcome patrons into a load theater, ride with them to act one and then push his or her way back through a panel to a new audience just coming in. Security either called AS to verify that there was no problem or ignored the alarm all together.

    Makes one wonder what would have happened if someone *had* gotten stuck again.

    By the way, my 1978 recording of America Sings does not have "Columbia" playing as load music. (There is no music playing whatsoever.) I wonder why they appear to have had problems with that track.
     
  18. DC-88 Spaceliner

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    I wonder if the "Columbia Track" had originaly been recorded for something else.......does anyone know of any Hall of Presidents load/lobby music from the original WDW show. The "Columbia" track that everyone has out there was from the WED master sent to Disneyland
    Records for production of the AMERICA SINGS press-prview album........(the same master that was used to make the Disneyland Forever selection.......with the original "who shot that hole in my sombrero" track. The firts Album pressed was done April 1974 (WOND-3) the attraction's had it's grand opening June 30th 1974..the WED memo's have song nots for 39 tacks........example:

    "Yankee Doodle#1 fast traditional, add. lyrics :Al Bertino
    inter. copyright secured, file Glendale, CA.

    "Geanie With the Light Brown Hair" Gently trad. Stephen Foster........etc, etc...


    the last track:
    "The Stars And Stripes Forever" Marziale. John Philip Sousa...etc, etc.....

    there's also notes about Buddy Baker........but no mention of that Columbia track stuck on the end of that reel.........

    Maybe it was just pulled from an exsiting recording session........like the old WDW WESTERN RIVER RIDE preview.........the music coming out of the saloon was the same plinky piano and "pot & pan" music that was done for WDW's Mister Toad's Wild Ride :.the Winkie's Tavern track............



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  19. ex-wdi

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    I get a prize! Just a good guess on my end....


    The America Sings Del Monte Tomato Rag...

    Jeez Mike...

    P.S. Ever find any evidence of an attraction poster for America Sings?
     
  20. X-S Tech

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    The Show Doc. library doesn't have any record of one, nor does the artwork library. Of course this doesn't mean a thing.
     

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