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Alice in Wonderland ... cut song

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Dirk, Jan 25, 2004.

  1. Dirk

    Dirk Member

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    Hey there, Hi there, Ho there,

    I just took a look at the content list for the upcoming "Alice in Wonderland" masterpiece edition DVD release. There it reads:

    "I'm Odd" never before heard song

    Which made me wonder: anyone knowing more? The song was not included in the Classic Soundtrack Series release so ... may we hope for a rerelease of the soundtrack including that song??



    Yours
    Dirk
     
  2. David S.

    David S. Member

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    I found this review:

    http://www.dvdmg.com/aliceinwonderlandmasterpiece.shtml

    It sounds like it was replaced by "Twas Brillig" in the final film and the version on the DVD extra is a new recording, not from the 50's. So I get the impression from reading this review that it's not really a case of a song from a cut scene like "Music In Your Soup", "Human Again" or "If I Never Knew You", but rather a case where the filmakers decided to use a different song for that scene/character ("Twas Brillig").

    David
     
  3. Gurgitoy2

    Gurgitoy2 Active Member

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    The same thing happened with "Beyond the Laughing Sky/Second Star to the Right". It was intended for Alice, but Kathryn Beaumont's vocal range was not high enough for it, so "In a World of My Own" was written instead. Luckily the first song was good enough to be later used in Peter Pan.
     
  4. Steve Carras

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    Technically, of course, you mean "the second component (SECOND STAR) of the first SUITE"..since those are two whole original songs together (the seventies oldies newsgroup, rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1970s has had threads about what one calls such a coupling of two original songs--Paul and Linda McCartney'as 1971 hit classic "UNCLE ALBERT/ADMIRAL HALSEY=)..anyway,I'm actually looking forward to this..to fianlly see what many of the original classics might have had..Stan Freberg is reputed to have done a rejected voice for the Jabberwock, who of course is conspicous by abense in the final flick (as are the following Lewis Carroll's characters:The Mock Turtle, The Gyrphon, Humpty Dumpty-a Mother Goose,not a Carroll creation, the Duchess, the other queens (and Kings), the White Knight,etc.etc.)(Of course Lewis Carroll wrote TWO Alice books: AIW and "ALICE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS". Granted there ARE many characters in the book..San Fran pscych-rock group Jefferson AIrplane's classic about Carroll's world, "WHITE RABBIT", also doesn't have time to mention all the characters in its 2-1/2 minute time (the intro's 20 seconds long)..

    Lewis Carroll was certainly taken up by the unlikely (to folks like Walt at least), parties, such as 1960s stoners (consider also The Beatles's "I AM THE WALRUS
    ". Pooppoopachoo!!)

    I always loved Alice,esp.the beautiful Technicolor(tm) setting, the music and the voices. Much has been made of the use of celeb voices (something that regarding current cartoons I'm on the fence about) but in the days of Alice in didn't matter if the voice artist was a "celeb" or not, given their showing up on the then-superdominant oldtime radio (as it's called now),pre-TV shows..

    A mixture of cxeleb and "standard" vocal artists contributed to "ALICE". Ed Wynn was the "Fire Cheif" back in the 1930s,before beign the mad hatter, Verna Felton the longrunning"Battleax" on Jack Benny, Pinto Colvig (who had a minor role as the suqeaky-voiced flamingoes,including the one that which ALice uses as her croquet mallet). Bill Thompson imported his White Rabbit/Dodo voices from radio's "FIBBER McGEE AND MOLLY" (1935-1957), the rabbit thru MGM's famed Tex Avery toon "DROOPY
    ", and of course Jerry Colonna was Bob Hope's "Ah..Greeting Gate! Ah,yes!" sidekick, thuis justifiying their presence on Alice.PLUS, they were DANG FUNNY!

    (Kathryn Beaumont, the voice of Alice, had been in some movies and was excellent as Alice..)

    The effects with the Cheshire Cat's first (offscreen) appearance, singing Bob Hilliard (?) and Sammy Fain's (?) Carrroll-based "'TWAS BRILLIG", with the Technicolor effects, a true Kodak moment. (Also the "Mome raths/Tulgey Woods" scene and the card march.0 The music is among the best--I'm also a sucker for whistling, whether it's solo (like around then "HIGH & MIGHJTY" by Leroy Holmes orch.w/Fred Lowry) or in a chorus-back when ALCIE came out in the 50s there were a LOT of "Hit Parade" tunes--"PITTSBURGH PENNSYLVANIA" by Guy Mitchell w/Mitch MillerOrk, "THE POOR PEOPLE OF PARIS" by Les Baxter Ork and Chorus, and of course "COL.BOOGEY/BRIDGE OVER RIVER KWAI MARCHES" by Mitch Miller Orj and Chorus (which the GOOD original Hayley Mills 1961 "PARENT TRAP" nicely burlequesed)-with group whistling, either in whole or in part, on the Hit Parade. The Card's march tune, used in the Alice ride (I went to Disneyland today,BTW), employed wonderful use of whistlers.

    Yes, ALICE is ALIVE in Wonderland.(I currently just have the video, don't have the DVD yet)
     
  5. SpectroPluto

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  6. X-S Tech

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    Does this DVD actually have the complete "One hour in Wonderland"? I read a review that it did but didn't see it on the packaging. This is one special I can't believe they didn't show on Vault Disney. It's talked about so much but they never showed it. I'll be getting the DVD eventually either way.
     
  7. Jessica L

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    I could've sworn I saw One Hour in Wonderland on Vault Disney. Now I could definitely be wrong - but I know I've seen it and the only place that could've been was Vault Disney.

    Jessica
     
  8. X-S Tech

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    Well there were the good old preVault Disney days when that sort of material was on all the time. But you could be right. If they did show it, they didn't run it adnauseum like the other stuff.
     
  9. Jessica L

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    No, I only remember it being on once - maybe a few a times. This had to have been Vault Disney, because I was too young at the time of the *good* Disney Channel to have remembered watching it then. And I really only watched cartoons like the Wuzzles and Gummi Bears or shows like Zorro and Spin and Marty (I was a strange child :) ).

    Jessica
     
  10. Gurgitoy2

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    X-S, yes, the whole "One Hour in Wonderland" is on the DVD. What I like about it is that the animated sequences are in full color. It's also got the unedited version of "Clock Cleaners". The cartoon itself is edited down for time, but they didn't censor Donald Duck in this one. Plus I just love seeing the whole "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" scene!
     

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